Will this buff out?

clivvy · 23-09-2018, 11:49

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this is my Xtrail. Discovered this yesterday. Driven hundreds of miles with it probably not far off this condition. First i new something wasnt right was the inner strut cover had come off, and the plastic cracked a little. Didnt realise what had happened until yesterday when the plastic had cracked more and i could see more of the inner strut mounting plate.

Speaking to a garage tomorrow/Tuesday for some advice, a repair would be nice but im not feeling it, what do you guys think? I know the other side will probably not be far off too....looks expensive...

clivvy · 23-09-2018, 11:54

this is how it looked prior to inner trim removal

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jims-terrano · 23-09-2018, 11:59

Oh no that doesn’t look good mate.

I think the problem there is that it is taking a hell of a lot of weight. What’s the other side like?

I could have a word with my son if you like but he might run away and hide.

Do you know if there are any repair panels available?

clivvy · 23-09-2018, 12:26

i havent dared to look at the other side other than popping the access panel off - looks ok but from the sounds of it theres a 99% chance itll be rusty

As far as I can see, no panels to repair. Looks like a double skinned construction to me but im not 100%. im not feeling great about it. I absolutely loved this XTrail and its been great, not perfect, nothings perfect, but by far the best motor ive owned.

Im in that position now where i have to decide do I fix, replace or buy "new" on finance...

jims-terrano · 23-09-2018, 12:58

Not seen rust on an xtrail before, wonder how many are like that and nobody knows about it.

Think you need to bite the bullet and see what the other side is like Clivvy.

If you jack the car up from a body jacking point does that gap close up a bit? I understand there is plenty metal gone but you can see where it has pushed up.

clivvy · 23-09-2018, 13:07

yh i think i may as well remove the other panel for a look, will help with my decision making...!

jims-terrano · 23-09-2018, 13:26

A point to think about too is that although it may be possible to make a repair patch will the movement of thrown the rear wheel alignment out too.

clivvy · 23-09-2018, 13:41

yup, thats one of my worries. They would have to remove most of what is there in the photo and fabricate a new panel - and its not flat/square. And THEN hope to get it at the correct height etc...

i guess this explains why they havent been able to align my front tyres properly...

this is the other side

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jims-terrano · 23-09-2018, 13:51

Oh that’s not good.

clivvy · 23-09-2018, 13:54

isnt it....i just know in my heart that this car is going to the scrappers

solarman216 · 23-09-2018, 20:07

I think the crux here is what is the rest of the motor like, if in reasonable order then I would repair it, if there is much rust elsewhere then scrap it for spares, Rick

clivvy · 23-09-2018, 20:35

well, im not 100% sure Rick, but based on what I have seen and other mechanics reports, i'd suggest its not so great underneath...for example, the rear adjusters for the tracking are rusted off on one side, and i can see rust underneath all the waxoyl that has come off...

makeitfit · 23-09-2018, 21:10

If it was here then the boy would fix that up no problem.
Easy to get at too

Banshee · 23-09-2018, 21:13

That is literally one of my worst nightmares

I feel for you mate as I wouldn't know what to do now and I'd be gutted. I'm sorry I can't offer any advice on repair either as I'm literally just teaching myself to weld as I type

terranosaurusdoug · 23-09-2018, 21:15

Don't get too negative, if you like it fix it, and like Pete says plenty of access

23-09-2018, 11:49	#1
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	Will this buff out? Attachment 10092 IMG_20180922_113307.jpg this is my Xtrail. Discovered this yesterday. Driven hundreds of miles with it probably not far off this condition. First i new something wasnt right was the inner strut cover had come off, and the plastic cracked a little. Didnt realise what had happened until yesterday when the plastic had cracked more and i could see more of the inner strut mounting plate. Speaking to a garage tomorrow/Tuesday for some advice, a repair would be nice but im not feeling it, what do you guys think? I know the other side will probably not be far off too....looks expensive...

23-09-2018, 20:07	#11
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	I think the crux here is what is the rest of the motor like, if in reasonable order then I would repair it, if there is much rust elsewhere then scrap it for spares, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

23-09-2018, 21:13	#14
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23-09-2018, 11:54	#2
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	this is how it looked prior to inner trim removal IMG_20180922_110609.jpg

23-09-2018, 11:59	#3
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Oh no that doesn’t look good mate. I think the problem there is that it is taking a hell of a lot of weight. What’s the other side like? I could have a word with my son if you like but he might run away and hide. Do you know if there are any repair panels available?

23-09-2018, 12:26	#4
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	i havent dared to look at the other side other than popping the access panel off - looks ok but from the sounds of it theres a 99% chance itll be rusty As far as I can see, no panels to repair. Looks like a double skinned construction to me but im not 100%. im not feeling great about it. I absolutely loved this XTrail and its been great, not perfect, nothings perfect, but by far the best motor ive owned. Im in that position now where i have to decide do I fix, replace or buy "new" on finance...

23-09-2018, 12:58	#5
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Not seen rust on an xtrail before, wonder how many are like that and nobody knows about it. Think you need to bite the bullet and see what the other side is like Clivvy. If you jack the car up from a body jacking point does that gap close up a bit? I understand there is plenty metal gone but you can see where it has pushed up.

23-09-2018, 13:07	#6
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	yh i think i may as well remove the other panel for a look, will help with my decision making...!

23-09-2018, 13:26	#7
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	A point to think about too is that although it may be possible to make a repair patch will the movement of thrown the rear wheel alignment out too.

23-09-2018, 13:41	#8
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	yup, thats one of my worries. They would have to remove most of what is there in the photo and fabricate a new panel - and its not flat/square. And THEN hope to get it at the correct height etc... i guess this explains why they havent been able to align my front tyres properly... this is the other side IMG_20180923_131929.jpg

23-09-2018, 13:51	#9
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Oh that’s not good.

23-09-2018, 13:54	#10
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	isnt it....i just know in my heart that this car is going to the scrappers

23-09-2018, 20:35	#12
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	well, im not 100% sure Rick, but based on what I have seen and other mechanics reports, i'd suggest its not so great underneath...for example, the rear adjusters for the tracking are rusted off on one side, and i can see rust underneath all the waxoyl that has come off...

23-09-2018, 21:10	#13
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	If it was here then the boy would fix that up no problem. Easy to get at too

23-09-2018, 21:15	#15
terranosaurusdoug Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Yorkshire, J33 M62 Vehicle: 2000 Terrano lwb 2.7TDI Posts: 5,500	Don't get too negative, if you like it fix it, and like Pete says plenty of access