Hello from 'down under'

KiwiRob · 09-01-2017, 02:20

Hi all,

I am about to ask my opening question and it may be the one everyone remembers as 'the dumbest one'!

I have a 1994 Terrano TD27 and it is pretty gutless...poor acceleration and not liking uphills (which we have a few of here in NZ). I have done much Googling/You Tubing prior to joining this site and this has not helped me with my query.

Can anyone please tell me if my car has a MAF and, if so, where the damn thing hides? I've looked at dozens of engine photos of Terrano MAFs on the 'net and can't find anything under my bonnet that looks like a MAF (or anything that has Hitachi or Bosch on it)!

Cheers in anticipation.

Lazy-Ferret · 09-01-2017, 03:20

The MAF is a sensor on the output of the air filter, it will have 4 or 5 wires going into it. I don't think they were on the early ones. Post a picture of the engine bay, on the Air filter side and we should be able to tell you.

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KiwiRob · 09-01-2017, 04:27

Many thanks for the quick reply.

I've taken a photo that I hope is good enough...if it's the wrong area, or too close to the engine, let me know and I'll take another.

emjaybee · 09-01-2017, 08:46

Welcome! Rest assured that someone on here will have an answer for you.

While you're at it, I'm going to pre-empt some of my fellow members and say let's see some pics of the whole vehicle. (It helps some of us recognise the more exotic versions!).

It's a bit mad on here, but that's how we like it.

Banshee · 09-01-2017, 09:07

1994 will be the TD non-intercooled which don't have a MAF

Sounds to me like it's fuel starvation, have you changed the fuel filter and does the primer go solid with the engine running on the fuel filter head when you try and pump it?

KiwiRob · 09-01-2017, 09:37

Really appreciate the knowledge being shared guys.

it's getting dark here, so can't do the fuel filter check tonight...I'm have a look in the morning.

Regarding 'whole car' photos...I'm heading to a mate's farm for a few days tomorrow afternoon, via the Rainbow Road (Canterbury). It's a scenic route, avoiding the inland route that is now crammed with traffic following the big 'quake in Kaikoura. I'll post pics on my return of the old girl in some scenic landscapes.

Banshee · 09-01-2017, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

Really appreciate the knowledge being shared guys.

it's getting dark here, so can't do the fuel filter check tonight...I'm have a look in the morning.

Regarding 'whole car' photos...I'm heading to a mate's farm for a few days tomorrow afternoon, via the Rainbow Road (Canterbury). It's a scenic route, avoiding the inland route that is now crammed with traffic following the big 'quake in Kaikoura. I'll post pics on my return of the old girl in some scenic landscapes.

That sounds the job!!!

solarman216 · 09-01-2017, 11:42

Hi and welcome, different set up there to the UK models although I cannot remember the none intercooler models too well, some more engine bay pics will be good, Rick

makeitfit · 09-01-2017, 12:17

Excellent. Time to swap some info back down under. I spend way too much time searching through Aus Patrol forums

I think as Banshee there's a fuel issue, so check for the infamous mini filter in the banjo bolt to fuel pump.
Zippy normally asks "PICS PLEASE"

jims-terrano · 09-01-2017, 12:55

Yeah that was my first thoughts, mini filter. Take a look in quick links, the downloads section contains a host of how to guides and one of them is the mini filter. A tiny gauze filter that goes in a banjo bolt that attaches to the injector pump.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.

RJL Services · 09-01-2017, 13:33

yeah i would check the mini filter on my 1994 2.7td nissan mistral auto it caused lack of power and after i removed and cleaned it it was like a new truck loads of power this was after the aa relayed it 500 miles saying it was a blown turbo and it was this problem that i managed to find this great forum and wealth of knowledge

Banshee · 09-01-2017, 13:42

I'd have gone for the mini filter next but if it's been a while since the filter was changed I'd start there as a warm up to get those joints supple before tackling the Mini Filter

A word of advice, the workshop download for the checking/cleaning of the mini filter suggests that the battery and power steering pump should be removed however, I have removed mine by going behind the power steering pump with the right combination of extension bars.

Just watch that you don't lose the copper washer when you remove the bolt

KiwiRob · 09-01-2017, 19:17

I tried the primer this morning...when engine was running I could press the primer down. There was some resistance to me pushing, but I could do it relatively easily with one hand.

I'm off to the spares place now to get a fuel filter, as I haven't replaced this previously and then I'll check the mini filter.

Banshee · 09-01-2017, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

I tried the primer this morning...when engine was running I could press the primer down. There was some resistance to me pushing, but I could do it relatively easily with one hand.

I'm off to the spares place now to get a fuel filter, as I haven't replaced this previously and then I'll check the mini filter.

Good man you know it makes sense

Lazy-Ferret · 09-01-2017, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

Many thanks for the quick reply.

I've taken a photo that I hope is good enough...if it's the wrong area, or too close to the engine, let me know and I'll take another.

From that little bit, your car looks more like my WD21 Terrano, rather than than the R20 Terrano II which is the common one over here.

There is no MAF on that, I think you will have a hand throttle by the steering wheel on your car.

This is something like what you would be looking for, if you did have a MAF.

09-01-2017, 02:20	#1
KiwiRob Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Vehicle: Terrano TD27 Posts: 8	Hello from 'down under' Hi all, I am about to ask my opening question and it may be the one everyone remembers as 'the dumbest one'! I have a 1994 Terrano TD27 and it is pretty gutless...poor acceleration and not liking uphills (which we have a few of here in NZ). I have done much Googling/You Tubing prior to joining this site and this has not helped me with my query. Can anyone please tell me if my car has a MAF and, if so, where the damn thing hides? I've looked at dozens of engine photos of Terrano MAFs on the 'net and can't find anything under my bonnet that looks like a MAF (or anything that has Hitachi or Bosch on it)! Cheers in anticipation.

09-01-2017, 09:07	#5
Banshee Moderator Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 04 2.7 SWB Terrano II Van Posts: 13,526	1994 will be the TD non-intercooled which don't have a MAF Sounds to me like it's fuel starvation, have you changed the fuel filter and does the primer go solid with the engine running on the fuel filter head when you try and pump it? __________________ Moderator 04' Terrano II SE 2.7 TDi SWB Commercial in Silver - Project Thread Toyo Open Country M/T 33's on 10J Steels, Super Strong Steering Job Navara D22 Snorkel, Front LOKKA, Maunal Hubs, EGR Blank TunitII ECU Chip, 3" Body Lift, 2" Suss Lift, Heat Exchanger Black Interior, 3.0 Borg&Beck Clutch, Eckes Heated Fuel Filter 99' Y61 Patrol GR SE 2.8 TD6 LWB in Blue/Silver - Project Thread Engine Transplant - In Progress!!!

09-01-2017, 11:42	#8
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Hi and welcome, different set up there to the UK models although I cannot remember the none intercooler models too well, some more engine bay pics will be good, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

09-01-2017, 13:42	#12
Banshee Moderator Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 04 2.7 SWB Terrano II Van Posts: 13,526	I'd have gone for the mini filter next but if it's been a while since the filter was changed I'd start there as a warm up to get those joints supple before tackling the Mini Filter A word of advice, the workshop download for the checking/cleaning of the mini filter suggests that the battery and power steering pump should be removed however, I have removed mine by going behind the power steering pump with the right combination of extension bars. Just watch that you don't lose the copper washer when you remove the bolt __________________ Moderator 04' Terrano II SE 2.7 TDi SWB Commercial in Silver - Project Thread Toyo Open Country M/T 33's on 10J Steels, Super Strong Steering Job Navara D22 Snorkel, Front LOKKA, Maunal Hubs, EGR Blank TunitII ECU Chip, 3" Body Lift, 2" Suss Lift, Heat Exchanger Black Interior, 3.0 Borg&Beck Clutch, Eckes Heated Fuel Filter 99' Y61 Patrol GR SE 2.8 TD6 LWB in Blue/Silver - Project Thread Engine Transplant - In Progress!!!

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09-01-2017, 03:20	#2
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	The MAF is a sensor on the output of the air filter, it will have 4 or 5 wires going into it. I don't think they were on the early ones. Post a picture of the engine bay, on the Air filter side and we should be able to tell you. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

09-01-2017, 08:46	#4
emjaybee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oxfordshire Vehicle: 3.0Di SVE '05 5 door. Posts: 1,536	Welcome! Rest assured that someone on here will have an answer for you. While you're at it, I'm going to pre-empt some of my fellow members and say let's see some pics of the whole vehicle. (It helps some of us recognise the more exotic versions!). It's a bit mad on here, but that's how we like it.

09-01-2017, 09:37	#6
KiwiRob Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Vehicle: Terrano TD27 Posts: 8	Really appreciate the knowledge being shared guys. it's getting dark here, so can't do the fuel filter check tonight...I'm have a look in the morning. Regarding 'whole car' photos...I'm heading to a mate's farm for a few days tomorrow afternoon, via the Rainbow Road (Canterbury). It's a scenic route, avoiding the inland route that is now crammed with traffic following the big 'quake in Kaikoura. I'll post pics on my return of the old girl in some scenic landscapes.

09-01-2017, 12:17	#9
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Excellent. Time to swap some info back down under. I spend way too much time searching through Aus Patrol forums I think as Banshee there's a fuel issue, so check for the infamous mini filter in the banjo bolt to fuel pump. Zippy normally asks "PICS PLEASE"

09-01-2017, 12:55	#10
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Yeah that was my first thoughts, mini filter. Take a look in quick links, the downloads section contains a host of how to guides and one of them is the mini filter. A tiny gauze filter that goes in a banjo bolt that attaches to the injector pump. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

09-01-2017, 13:33	#11
RJL Services Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: southwest gloucester Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 2003 Posts: 615	yeah i would check the mini filter on my 1994 2.7td nissan mistral auto it caused lack of power and after i removed and cleaned it it was like a new truck loads of power this was after the aa relayed it 500 miles saying it was a blown turbo and it was this problem that i managed to find this great forum and wealth of knowledge

09-01-2017, 19:17	#13
KiwiRob Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Vehicle: Terrano TD27 Posts: 8	I tried the primer this morning...when engine was running I could press the primer down. There was some resistance to me pushing, but I could do it relatively easily with one hand. I'm off to the spares place now to get a fuel filter, as I haven't replaced this previously and then I'll check the mini filter.