Is your Tetanus up to date?

Lazy-Ferret · 18-05-2016, 12:38

As I have gotten older, I have taken this whole tetanus thing with a pinch of salt, lets face it, every cut or graze as a kid seemed to need a tetanus jab, and we were always told it was for our own good, else we might get "Lock Jaw". Now while we all knew a few people who could do with getting lock jaw to shut them up a bit, no-one I knew or ever met, had even heard a story of anyone actually getting Tetanus, there were not even the tenuous stories relating to a friend of a friend who had seen a sister's brother's dad's best friend get it, like there is with most things in life.

Then as I got older, they started delaying the tetanus jab, it seemed like it was no longer every hospital visit, but 2 yearly, then 5, then 7, finally seeming to settle at about every 10 years, so for me, as suddenly as they had started giving them every time I did something stupid, they stopped again and I could get away without the dreaded Tetanus shot after I had my stitches. Now this isn't a compliant, by the way, as I will do anything to avoid getting an injection, I know it is irrational, but I am scared silly of them, and for me the worst part of any trip to hospital, regardless of the injury, was the waiting to have the Tetanus jab after they had patched me up.

So as far as I was concerned, Tetanus was up there with honest politicians, Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter bunny, Your face will freeze like that, and of course, this won't hurt a bit!!!

Well, by now, you should all know how fanatical I am about our ferrets, and how they live as part of the family, much the same way most people have cats or dogs. We have a ferret proof garden so they can go out there and play, and when out there, they like nothing more than assisting with the gardening... They dig the hole, we fill it in, so they can dig it deeper... We plant a bulb, they dig it up and move it.. It all makes for a great surprise display in the spring, as we never know what is going to grow where. They also love Power tools, and never miss an opportunity to try and own one, here is Caramel about to make off with my angle grinder.

So, to the point.... Caramel managed to catch and snap one of his claws. He came to us a a rescue in a real bad state a few years ago, but once recovered, he was never one to withhold kisses and cuddles, and was a great companion to us and the other ferrets.

Luckily, catching their claws does not happen very often, but when a ferret does snap one off at the quick, it can be very hard to stem the bleeding, and the only other time it has happened to us, resulted in an emergency vet visit, late at night, with Suz and I covered in blood, and looking like we had taken a bath with Psycho... They can literally bleed out from such an apparently tiny injury.

So you can imagine how relieved we were when we saw Caramels was not actually bleeding very much, and within half an hour he was back up and walking on it, and an hour later was back to normal, belting round like nothing was wrong, and back out in the garden moving shrubs and trees.

A few days go past, we are at Thursday, last week, and have now forgotten all about Caramels injured paw. It was a hot day, which while nice for us, is not so good for ferrets, as they are not very good at coping with heat, so we were not in the least bit surprised when Caramel, along with most of the others were a bit lethargic and did not want to go outside, preferring to stay in the Air-conditioned living room.

Friday morning, Suz went to the cage they sleep in over night, to collect their food bowls for washing up, and Caramel literally threw himself into Suz's arms, which was not that unusual, but he normally did it with a bit more finesse. She immediately knew something was wrong, as his whole body was rigid, it felt like you were holding an animal that had already died, and rigamortis had set in, only he was alive and breathing.

We rushed him off to the vets, where he spent the whole day on drips and stuff, but in the evening I had to make the very hard decision to put him to sleep, as the prognosis was by then very bad. They had him on the strongest muscle relaxants going, and still could not get him to stop having seizures and fits.

Basically, he had caught Tetanus via the cut in his toe, while digging in the garden... Our garden, the safe ferret friendly place where we also spend many house digging and tending with our bare hands.

So please let this be a lessen for all the Manly Men, the "It's only a scratch" people, who carry on regardless. That is exactly what ferrets are like, life is too short to let a little pain, or discomfort stop them from having fun, a broken toe, so what, there's wrecking to be done...

You can't get tetanus shots for ferrets, but for us you can, and you need one every 10 years, it's not just deep wounds that get Tetanus, so make the most of it, you just never know.

terranosaurusdoug · 18-05-2016, 15:20

Food for thought clive, I don't think my 6yr old has had one which is a little worrying now, I think mine is still in date but I will check

jonela · 18-05-2016, 15:51

I had mine two years ago after standing on a rust nail

I was a bit woried for a while as it hurt like hell . the wound, not the injection

makeitfit · 18-05-2016, 15:52

I've defo not had one in living memory. When it was jab day in school I went orff to the woods

Hmmmm

Banshee · 18-05-2016, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitfit

I've defo not had one in living memory. When it was jab day in school I went orff to the woods

Hmmmm

Funny that mate and me

macabethiel · 18-05-2016, 16:51

Strangely enough as I worked for a few months at Safepharm now (I.S.L.) an testing laboratory I had to have a booster for T.B.,Polio, Hepatitus C, etc.

It was quite interesting work but the pay was poor and it soon got a bit repetitious so I left as I wanted part time only work.

I tested various products to see if they would kill the Bacteria in your local Sewage Farm I could not and would not work any higher up the evolution tree than killing Algae.

emjaybee · 18-05-2016, 18:01

Sorry to hear about Caramel mate.

I often look at your ferret website, I find it most entertaining.

It sounds like he had a nice life with you.

Condolences.

johnb5177 · 18-05-2016, 18:35

So very sorry that you lost Caramel, a great little soul.

Having worked in the countryside for a long time, I am very aware of the need to keep my tetanus jab, up to date, however, like many here, I am a bit freaked by injections, and become a total embarrassment. .........

solarman216 · 18-05-2016, 22:36

So sorry to hear about Caramel Clive, bet you miss him, Rick

jims-terrano · 18-05-2016, 22:43

Sorry to hear about your loss and never even thought about any animal getting that.
Got me thinking though, no idea about it all or even if I've ever had one.

perelaar · 19-05-2016, 08:20

Sorry to hear about Caramel!

If I'm not mistaken my male labrador got a tetanus vaccin, as he runs a high risk of injury when we're out shooting.
One of my friends' dogs got massive chest injury last year from running full pelt into a sharp piece of iron. The silly thing even completed the retrieve, but it was end of shooting season for her.

I had repeated vaccinations unfortunately, after accidents in garden en forest. Nothing like a house renovation to get your vaccinations in order.

Banshee · 19-05-2016, 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by perelaar

Sorry to hear about Caramel!

If I'm not mistaken my male labrador got a tetanus vaccin, as he runs a high risk of injury when we're out shooting.
One of my friends' dogs got massive chest injury last year from running full pelt into a sharp piece of iron. The silly thing even completed the retrieve, but it was end of shooting season for her.

I had repeated vaccinations unfortunately, after accidents in garden en forest. Nothing like a house renovation to get your vaccinations in order.

That just shows how loyal a dog can be, that's why they are mans best friend

johnb5177 · 19-05-2016, 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banshee

That just shows how loyal a dog can be, that's why they are mans best friend

+++++++1

Lazy-Ferret · 19-05-2016, 12:39

Thanks for the kind comments, we have lost two real characters within a couple of weeks, so both Suz and I have taken it a bit hard. All ferrets have personalities, but some really make their presence felt, and therefore their loss seem even greater, especially when it can be put down to ignorance.

I am glad that a few people who read this were the same as me, and a bit adhoc about the tetanus jab, and especially animals getting it, as it does make me feel a bit better that I was not being totally stupid, and should the worse happen, it might save one of their animals lives in the future.

Perelaar, thank you for that bit of info, I will speak to our vet next time we see them, as maybe they can use the same jab on ferrets after a wound. I think, having looked into it a bit more, there are effective 2 types of Tetanus jab, the one given to humans that effectively immunises you, giving you some sort of antibodies for 10 years or so, and the other is an "after wound" one, that only protects you for 3 weeks from the effects, but does not allow the body to build up any lasting immunity. It seems that animals are generally given the second type.

perelaar · 19-05-2016, 13:31

I might well be, I'll ask next time I see the vet...

18-05-2016, 12:38	#1
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	Is your Tetanus up to date? As I have gotten older, I have taken this whole tetanus thing with a pinch of salt, lets face it, every cut or graze as a kid seemed to need a tetanus jab, and we were always told it was for our own good, else we might get "Lock Jaw". Now while we all knew a few people who could do with getting lock jaw to shut them up a bit, no-one I knew or ever met, had even heard a story of anyone actually getting Tetanus, there were not even the tenuous stories relating to a friend of a friend who had seen a sister's brother's dad's best friend get it, like there is with most things in life. Then as I got older, they started delaying the tetanus jab, it seemed like it was no longer every hospital visit, but 2 yearly, then 5, then 7, finally seeming to settle at about every 10 years, so for me, as suddenly as they had started giving them every time I did something stupid, they stopped again and I could get away without the dreaded Tetanus shot after I had my stitches. Now this isn't a compliant, by the way, as I will do anything to avoid getting an injection, I know it is irrational, but I am scared silly of them, and for me the worst part of any trip to hospital, regardless of the injury, was the waiting to have the Tetanus jab after they had patched me up. So as far as I was concerned, Tetanus was up there with honest politicians, Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter bunny, Your face will freeze like that, and of course, this won't hurt a bit!!! Well, by now, you should all know how fanatical I am about our ferrets, and how they live as part of the family, much the same way most people have cats or dogs. We have a ferret proof garden so they can go out there and play, and when out there, they like nothing more than assisting with the gardening... They dig the hole, we fill it in, so they can dig it deeper... We plant a bulb, they dig it up and move it.. It all makes for a great surprise display in the spring, as we never know what is going to grow where. They also love Power tools, and never miss an opportunity to try and own one, here is Caramel about to make off with my angle grinder. So, to the point.... Caramel managed to catch and snap one of his claws. He came to us a a rescue in a real bad state a few years ago, but once recovered, he was never one to withhold kisses and cuddles, and was a great companion to us and the other ferrets. Luckily, catching their claws does not happen very often, but when a ferret does snap one off at the quick, it can be very hard to stem the bleeding, and the only other time it has happened to us, resulted in an emergency vet visit, late at night, with Suz and I covered in blood, and looking like we had taken a bath with Psycho... They can literally bleed out from such an apparently tiny injury. So you can imagine how relieved we were when we saw Caramels was not actually bleeding very much, and within half an hour he was back up and walking on it, and an hour later was back to normal, belting round like nothing was wrong, and back out in the garden moving shrubs and trees. A few days go past, we are at Thursday, last week, and have now forgotten all about Caramels injured paw. It was a hot day, which while nice for us, is not so good for ferrets, as they are not very good at coping with heat, so we were not in the least bit surprised when Caramel, along with most of the others were a bit lethargic and did not want to go outside, preferring to stay in the Air-conditioned living room. Friday morning, Suz went to the cage they sleep in over night, to collect their food bowls for washing up, and Caramel literally threw himself into Suz's arms, which was not that unusual, but he normally did it with a bit more finesse. She immediately knew something was wrong, as his whole body was rigid, it felt like you were holding an animal that had already died, and rigamortis had set in, only he was alive and breathing. We rushed him off to the vets, where he spent the whole day on drips and stuff, but in the evening I had to make the very hard decision to put him to sleep, as the prognosis was by then very bad. They had him on the strongest muscle relaxants going, and still could not get him to stop having seizures and fits. Basically, he had caught Tetanus via the cut in his toe, while digging in the garden... Our garden, the safe ferret friendly place where we also spend many house digging and tending with our bare hands. So please let this be a lessen for all the Manly Men, the "It's only a scratch" people, who carry on regardless. That is exactly what ferrets are like, life is too short to let a little pain, or discomfort stop them from having fun, a broken toe, so what, there's wrecking to be done... You can't get tetanus shots for ferrets, but for us you can, and you need one every 10 years, it's not just deep wounds that get Tetanus, so make the most of it, you just never know.

18-05-2016, 16:51	#6
macabethiel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Derby Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0 Posts: 4,416	Boosters I had mine in 2004 ! Strangely enough as I worked for a few months at Safepharm now (I.S.L.) an testing laboratory I had to have a booster for T.B.,Polio, Hepatitus C, etc. It was quite interesting work but the pay was poor and it soon got a bit repetitious so I left as I wanted part time only work. I tested various products to see if they would kill the Bacteria in your local Sewage Farm I could not and would not work any higher up the evolution tree than killing Algae.

18-05-2016, 22:36	#9
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	So sorry to hear about Caramel Clive, bet you miss him, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

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18-05-2016, 15:20	#2
terranosaurusdoug Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Yorkshire, J33 M62 Vehicle: 2000 Terrano lwb 2.7TDI Posts: 5,500	Food for thought clive, I don't think my 6yr old has had one which is a little worrying now, I think mine is still in date but I will check

18-05-2016, 15:51	#3
jonela Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Chateaunef du Faou, France Vehicle: 2000 LWB SE+ Posts: 906	I had mine two years ago after standing on a rust nail I was a bit woried for a while as it hurt like hell . the wound, not the injection

18-05-2016, 15:52	#4
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	I've defo not had one in living memory. When it was jab day in school I went orff to the woods Hmmmm

18-05-2016, 18:01	#7
emjaybee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oxfordshire Vehicle: 3.0Di SVE '05 5 door. Posts: 1,536	Sorry to hear about Caramel mate. I often look at your ferret website, I find it most entertaining. It sounds like he had a nice life with you. Condolences.

18-05-2016, 18:35	#8
johnb5177 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Swansea, S.Wales Vehicle: 02Terrano II 3.0 SVE Auto Posts: 1,586	So very sorry that you lost Caramel, a great little soul. Having worked in the countryside for a long time, I am very aware of the need to keep my tetanus jab, up to date, however, like many here, I am a bit freaked by injections, and become a total embarrassment. .........

18-05-2016, 22:43	#10
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Sorry to hear about your loss and never even thought about any animal getting that. Got me thinking though, no idea about it all or even if I've ever had one.

19-05-2016, 08:20	#11
perelaar Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Belgium Vehicle: Terrano II 2.7TDi SWB '97 Posts: 802	Sorry to hear about Caramel! If I'm not mistaken my male labrador got a tetanus vaccin, as he runs a high risk of injury when we're out shooting. One of my friends' dogs got massive chest injury last year from running full pelt into a sharp piece of iron. The silly thing even completed the retrieve, but it was end of shooting season for her. I had repeated vaccinations unfortunately, after accidents in garden en forest. Nothing like a house renovation to get your vaccinations in order.

19-05-2016, 12:39	#14
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	Thanks for the kind comments, we have lost two real characters within a couple of weeks, so both Suz and I have taken it a bit hard. All ferrets have personalities, but some really make their presence felt, and therefore their loss seem even greater, especially when it can be put down to ignorance. I am glad that a few people who read this were the same as me, and a bit adhoc about the tetanus jab, and especially animals getting it, as it does make me feel a bit better that I was not being totally stupid, and should the worse happen, it might save one of their animals lives in the future. Perelaar, thank you for that bit of info, I will speak to our vet next time we see them, as maybe they can use the same jab on ferrets after a wound. I think, having looked into it a bit more, there are effective 2 types of Tetanus jab, the one given to humans that effectively immunises you, giving you some sort of antibodies for 10 years or so, and the other is an "after wound" one, that only protects you for 3 weeks from the effects, but does not allow the body to build up any lasting immunity. It seems that animals are generally given the second type.

19-05-2016, 13:31	#15
perelaar Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Belgium Vehicle: Terrano II 2.7TDi SWB '97 Posts: 802	I might well be, I'll ask next time I see the vet...