Gas/Electric Kwh bill questions?

AD Ent · 20-08-2013, 22:00

Did my meter readings today. I usually forget so Scottish Power have to remind me

It is all done online but I never check it, just pay the DD

Well today I logged in to my account and cast my eyes over our useage and I am puzzled by it. Hoping some of you might post their useage so I can compare because somethings doesn't seem right. Why am I puzzled? It's the Average consumption figures. I cant understand how the Gas kWh is so high compared to the electric kWh?

Bill period: 09/05/13 - 19/08/13
Number of days: 103
Electricity (kWh)Total:591 Daily Average:6
Gas (kWh) Total:3461 Daily Average:34

Background:
Just me and the Mrs in a 2 bed mid terrace. At work during the day. Not had the heating or the fire on at all. Just hot water

The Bill: 3Month Period 9/5/13 - 8/8/13 (Actual 9/5/13-19/8/13)

AD Ent · 20-08-2013, 22:13

Copy of Bill

clivvy · 20-08-2013, 22:24

ummm...that does seem odd.

just had a look at mine and despite the gas not being used, its still much lower than electric...

AD Ent · 20-08-2013, 22:37

Inc in electric is a tumble drier, microwave, main cooker has a fan oven (with gas hob).. it's basically everything except the Hot water. Mrs likes a soak after work so maybe 3/4 a week half-full baths.?? Only Gas we've got is the Hob, Fire, Boiler.

solarman216 · 20-08-2013, 23:20

So glad I do not have lecy, gas or any other bill, Rick

makeitfit · 20-08-2013, 23:46

Sorry guys I can't actually read the end usage amount

How much is it ?
We use 15 a week all in

The wife's bloody amphibian , I wash before court appearances .

AD Ent · 20-08-2013, 23:59

https://app.box.com/s/n3jngthqhsojkwo1ck0e
The bill is estimated
Actual Electric reading 10252
Actual Gas reading 04903

which reduced the total by £36.56

makeitfit · 21-08-2013, 00:10

Well that's as clear as mud

Erm is that for 20 days ? Is it estimated ?
I'm with EDF it just says so many units used = £s simples.
Yours is bollox

AD Ent · 21-08-2013, 10:46

clear as mud exactly. So a little experiment if you will chaps. List your Gas meter Daily use.
Here is mine as I took a reading yesterday.

19/8/13 04903
20/8/13 04905
Useage = 2units. (1unit=11.5kWh ) 23kWh/day

Here is how to work out kWh from gas units:

Gas units used X Calorific Value 39.3 X Volume Correction 1.0422640 / 3.6 = Gas used in kWh

Or this does it for you: http://www.energylinx.co.uk/gas_meter_conversion.html

rustic · 21-08-2013, 11:16

I hope your neighbour hasn't tapped into your gas supply, and is growing things in his loft.

I know they do it for the electric

.
He might have a gas powered generator

Try turning off all appliances, and monitor gas usage over a few hours, incase there is a leak somewhere.

AD Ent · 21-08-2013, 12:59

boiler only comes on with hot water tap. fire not been on since May. Gas hob isn't used much really, possibly 30mins /night. no problem with electric. my yearly consumption is estimated at 2903kWh for electric i'm fine with that

.
But 20718kWh for Gas

I just can't see it. only 2 of us

clivvy · 21-08-2013, 19:18

your gas does seem high, but running the bath is eating into the gas, same with taps, and the gas hob. Is your boiler running ok, when was it last serviced?

SPARKIEDOO · 21-08-2013, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by AD Ent

boiler only comes on with hot water tap. fire not been on since May. Gas hob isn't used much really, possibly 30mins /night. no problem with electric. my yearly consumption is estimated at 2903kWh for electric i'm fine with that

.
But 20718kWh for Gas

I just can't see it. only 2 of us

What kind of boiler do you have? How many rings do you have on your hob ?

If you use your boiler for hot water then the gas is the highest rate when burning

What is your water temp coming from the from the taps ?

macabethiel · 21-08-2013, 19:53

My mate had a £1500 gas bill after a lot of issues he had Gas leak people out and they found he had a leak under his kitchen floor and cut him off for safety.

They gave him a year to pay for the lost gas though and not a whiff in the house when it was leaking.

I would do some daily checks over next 3 days and if use is high call them in for a gas leak check it is free for safety reasons I understand.

If you smell gas or are worried about gas safety, you can call 0800 111 999* at any time, day or night. Your call will not cost you anything**. Just pick up the phone, dial the number and you will be put through to a trained operator who will take all the details.

AD Ent · 21-08-2013, 21:37

Boiler is Worcester 24i. Last time plumber came and repaired it he said he remebers installing it around 12-13yrs ago. Gas safety checked every year, don't know if he services it at the same time.
https://www.heatingspares247.com/dow...ued_Aug_07.pdf

4 Ring gas hob

Water temp at bath tap on full flow:

macabethiel- Thanks for the advise, I am keeping an eye on it over the next few days.

20-08-2013, 22:00	#1
AD Ent Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: West Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II SE+ 2.7 2000 Posts: 915	Gas/Electric Kwh bill questions? Did my meter readings today. I usually forget so Scottish Power have to remind me It is all done online but I never check it, just pay the DD Well today I logged in to my account and cast my eyes over our useage and I am puzzled by it. Hoping some of you might post their useage so I can compare because somethings doesn't seem right. Why am I puzzled? It's the Average consumption figures. I cant understand how the Gas kWh is so high compared to the electric kWh? Bill period: 09/05/13 - 19/08/13 Number of days: 103 Electricity (kWh)Total:591 Daily Average:6 Gas (kWh) Total:3461 Daily Average:34 Background: Just me and the Mrs in a 2 bed mid terrace. At work during the day. Not had the heating or the fire on at all. Just hot water The Bill: 3Month Period 9/5/13 - 8/8/13 (Actual 9/5/13-19/8/13)

20-08-2013, 23:20	#5
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21-08-2013, 11:16	#10
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	I hope your neighbour hasn't tapped into your gas supply, and is growing things in his loft. I know they do it for the electric. He might have a gas powered generator Try turning off all appliances, and monitor gas usage over a few hours, incase there is a leak somewhere. __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

21-08-2013, 12:59	#11
AD Ent Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: West Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II SE+ 2.7 2000 Posts: 915	boiler only comes on with hot water tap. fire not been on since May. Gas hob isn't used much really, possibly 30mins /night. no problem with electric. my yearly consumption is estimated at 2903kWh for electric i'm fine with that. But 20718kWh for Gas I just can't see it. only 2 of us

21-08-2013, 19:53	#14
macabethiel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Derby Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0 Posts: 4,416	High Gas use My mate had a £1500 gas bill after a lot of issues he had Gas leak people out and they found he had a leak under his kitchen floor and cut him off for safety. They gave him a year to pay for the lost gas though and not a whiff in the house when it was leaking. I would do some daily checks over next 3 days and if use is high call them in for a gas leak check it is free for safety reasons I understand. If you smell gas or are worried about gas safety, you can call 0800 111 999* at any time, day or night. Your call will not cost you anything**. Just pick up the phone, dial the number and you will be put through to a trained operator who will take all the details.

20-08-2013, 22:24	#3
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	ummm...that does seem odd. just had a look at mine and despite the gas not being used, its still much lower than electric...

20-08-2013, 22:37	#4
AD Ent Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: West Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II SE+ 2.7 2000 Posts: 915	Inc in electric is a tumble drier, microwave, main cooker has a fan oven (with gas hob).. it's basically everything except the Hot water. Mrs likes a soak after work so maybe 3/4 a week half-full baths.?? Only Gas we've got is the Hob, Fire, Boiler.

20-08-2013, 23:46	#6
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Sorry guys I can't actually read the end usage amount How much is it ? We use 15 a week all in The wife's bloody amphibian , I wash before court appearances .

20-08-2013, 23:59	#7
AD Ent Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: West Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II SE+ 2.7 2000 Posts: 915	https://app.box.com/s/n3jngthqhsojkwo1ck0e The bill is estimated Actual Electric reading 10252 Actual Gas reading 04903 which reduced the total by £36.56

21-08-2013, 00:10	#8
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Well that's as clear as mud Erm is that for 20 days ? Is it estimated ? I'm with EDF it just says so many units used = £s simples. Yours is bollox

21-08-2013, 10:46	#9
AD Ent Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: West Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II SE+ 2.7 2000 Posts: 915	clear as mud exactly. So a little experiment if you will chaps. List your Gas meter Daily use. Here is mine as I took a reading yesterday. 19/8/13 04903 20/8/13 04905 Useage = 2units. (1unit=11.5kWh ) 23kWh/day Here is how to work out kWh from gas units: Gas units used X Calorific Value 39.3 X Volume Correction 1.0422640 / 3.6 = Gas used in kWh Or this does it for you: http://www.energylinx.co.uk/gas_meter_conversion.html

21-08-2013, 19:18	#12
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	your gas does seem high, but running the bath is eating into the gas, same with taps, and the gas hob. Is your boiler running ok, when was it last serviced?

21-08-2013, 21:37	#15
AD Ent Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: West Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II SE+ 2.7 2000 Posts: 915	Boiler is Worcester 24i. Last time plumber came and repaired it he said he remebers installing it around 12-13yrs ago. Gas safety checked every year, don't know if he services it at the same time. https://www.heatingspares247.com/dow...ued_Aug_07.pdf 4 Ring gas hob Water temp at bath tap on full flow: macabethiel- Thanks for the advise, I am keeping an eye on it over the next few days.

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