MOT Fail (Sill corrosion)

26-06-2008, 19:06

Just wondering been outa the garage game now for a few years,trucks failed its test today on sill corrosion surely there not structual on these vehicles anyone know different.
thx in advance

Terranosaurus · 26-06-2008, 19:08

The cills are with 30cm of the chassis/body mounts and the seat belt mounts so are counted as structural.

wanaron · 29-06-2008, 22:11

seems to be quite commonplace this sill corrosion, see my WAXOYL question post. Any other members failed MOT because of this?
Wayne

mav · 30-06-2008, 05:11

Hello Wanaron,
Do you know i dont think rust is a big problem for most owners, The only place we hear of it normaly is on the front wing under the trim or around the rear seat belt mountings.

Do you think that she may have been badly grounded at some stage, Maybe before you got it?.

Mav.

jims-terrano · 30-06-2008, 08:04

The ends of my sills are bubbling, the section at the bottom of the rear wheel arches. I can also see rust bubbling around the rear seat belt mounts but it doesn't look bad yet. Having said that it's MOT time so I will have to wait and see.

Jim T

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 30-06-2008, 09:06

ive noticed that i have rot in the brackets for the front bumper visible in front of the wheels, is this normal? other than that a spot on the back of the wings visible when front doors are open between hinges.

Terranosaurus · 30-06-2008, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav

Do you know i dont think rust is a big problem for most owners, The only place we hear of it normaly is on the front wing under the trim or around the rear seat belt mountings.

I'd have to disagree with that Mav. The older trucks, especially the Mavericks it seems, are definitely starting to rust, I regularly see ones with bubbling round the arches, back end of cills, etc. I think the Mav's tended to be bought by farmers (they were cheaper than T2s) etc and so have seen a harder life or perhaps they skimped on the underseal on the ford badges ones. Even my petrol filler flap is starting to bubble.

mav · 30-06-2008, 20:23

Think yours has had a little more work than the supermarket trip and picking up the kids from school, Most have never seen any water apart from when there being washed.

Also the older ones are 15 years old, Better than most cars of that age.

elty001 · 30-06-2008, 20:41

mine has got a few rust bubbles on the rear of the sill.its caused by the lower part of the rear inner wheel arch filling up with crud which holds all the moisture then they rot from the inside out.going to spray the bottom half of mine soon as it had a few knocks and scrapes.toying with the idea of doing it with silver hammerite(the smooth one).done about every other 4x4 ive owned in the stuff.out lasts any conventional paint.i dug all the crud out of the arch with a small srewdriver then blasted it with the air line to dry it out and sprayed it with under body shultz to try and slow down the dreaded tin worms.

rossco · 01-07-2008, 10:10

Try this.

http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.co.uk...ight=corrosion

01-07-2008, 16:01

alot of the rust problems depend on where the vehicle has spent its life,worse cars are the scottish ones,ive seen them rotted out in 5 years.waxoyl the sills inside and should have no probs :wink:

wanaron · 01-07-2008, 17:11

Dont think my T2 has been grounded, no sign of anything underneath. However will agree with the posting saying condition is dependant on where the motor has spent its life. Mine has come from the North east by the sea. underneath is very dry and as ive said going to Waxoyl it before the dreaded takes hold. already had to change the clutch and fuel pipes as they were bad.
Wayne

Terranosaurus · 01-07-2008, 17:47

Aye, mine came from the western isles and its suffering fairly badly.

Deleted Member S · 01-07-2008, 20:30

Mine's from the north east & has been all it's life

: but TBH I don't think the area of the UK is the prob :roll: mine has start to rust behind the rear bumper, front valance X member & the sills :twisted: luckly the arches are ok from what I can see apart from a tiny bit of serface on the lower rear wheel arch where all the muck collects :roll:

03-07-2008, 23:36

the sills biggest prob is its got a seam nearly level with the back edge of the door and is double skinned which acts as a water trap,
nearly no protection as in zinc paint or wax inside am fitting 2 new skins this weekend then its waxoil time

26-06-2008, 19:06	#1
rsaddo Guest Posts: n/a	MOT Fail (Sill corrosion) Just wondering been outa the garage game now for a few years,trucks failed its test today on sill corrosion surely there not structual on these vehicles anyone know different. thx in advance

30-06-2008, 09:06	#6
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	ive noticed that i have rot in the brackets for the front bumper visible in front of the wheels, is this normal? other than that a spot on the back of the wings visible when front doors are open between hinges. __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

30-06-2008, 20:41	#9
elty001 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aflreton,Derbyshire. Vehicle: 2000se+ 2.7tdi terrano II Posts: 6,832	rust mine has got a few rust bubbles on the rear of the sill.its caused by the lower part of the rear inner wheel arch filling up with crud which holds all the moisture then they rot from the inside out.going to spray the bottom half of mine soon as it had a few knocks and scrapes.toying with the idea of doing it with silver hammerite(the smooth one).done about every other 4x4 ive owned in the stuff.out lasts any conventional paint.i dug all the crud out of the arch with a small srewdriver then blasted it with the air line to dry it out and sprayed it with under body shultz to try and slow down the dreaded tin worms.

01-07-2008, 17:11	#12
wanaron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: staffordshire Vehicle: terrano Posts: 199	sils Dont think my T2 has been grounded, no sign of anything underneath. However will agree with the posting saying condition is dependant on where the motor has spent its life. Mine has come from the North east by the sea. underneath is very dry and as ive said going to Waxoyl it before the dreaded takes hold. already had to change the clutch and fuel pipes as they were bad. Wayne

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26-06-2008, 19:08	#2
Terranosaurus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: YORKSHIRE Vehicle: 2001 2.7 TDi T2 SWB Posts: 4,077	The cills are with 30cm of the chassis/body mounts and the seat belt mounts so are counted as structural.

29-06-2008, 22:11	#3
wanaron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: staffordshire Vehicle: terrano Posts: 199	seems to be quite commonplace this sill corrosion, see my WAXOYL question post. Any other members failed MOT because of this? Wayne

30-06-2008, 05:11	#4
mav Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Posts: 1,748	Hello Wanaron, Do you know i dont think rust is a big problem for most owners, The only place we hear of it normaly is on the front wing under the trim or around the rear seat belt mountings. Do you think that she may have been badly grounded at some stage, Maybe before you got it?. Mav.

30-06-2008, 08:04	#5
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	The ends of my sills are bubbling, the section at the bottom of the rear wheel arches. I can also see rust bubbling around the rear seat belt mounts but it doesn't look bad yet. Having said that it's MOT time so I will have to wait and see. Jim T

30-06-2008, 20:23	#8
mav Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Posts: 1,748	Think yours has had a little more work than the supermarket trip and picking up the kids from school, Most have never seen any water apart from when there being washed. Also the older ones are 15 years old, Better than most cars of that age.

01-07-2008, 10:10	#10
rossco Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wellington North Island New Zealand Vehicle: NIssan Mistral Posts: 1,107	Try this. http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.co.uk...ight=corrosion

01-07-2008, 16:01	#11
priorperformance Guest Posts: n/a	alot of the rust problems depend on where the vehicle has spent its life,worse cars are the scottish ones,ive seen them rotted out in 5 years.waxoyl the sills inside and should have no probs :wink:

01-07-2008, 17:47	#13
Terranosaurus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: YORKSHIRE Vehicle: 2001 2.7 TDi T2 SWB Posts: 4,077	Aye, mine came from the western isles and its suffering fairly badly.

01-07-2008, 20:30	#14
Deleted Member S Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,711	Mine's from the north east & has been all it's life : but TBH I don't think the area of the UK is the prob :roll: mine has start to rust behind the rear bumper, front valance X member & the sills :twisted: luckly the arches are ok from what I can see apart from a tiny bit of serface on the lower rear wheel arch where all the muck collects :roll:

03-07-2008, 23:36	#15
rsaddo Guest Posts: n/a	the sills biggest prob is its got a seam nearly level with the back edge of the door and is double skinned which acts as a water trap, nearly no protection as in zinc paint or wax inside am fitting 2 new skins this weekend then its waxoil time