Morocco Bound?

manora · 14-11-2012, 13:12

Just got back from Morocco following a group of enduro bikes round a route that takes in some Sahara and some Atlas mountains.

Third time I've been and I'm now feeling confident enough to organise a trip myself.

I'm looking for expressions of interest only at this stage for a trip next October. Depending on ferry timings we would be away between 3 and 4 weeks.

The total mileage from my door to my door. North West Wales, is about 4000 miles which is about 1500 down, 1000 in the desert and mountains and about 1500 back.

The off road sections are not extreme, Standard Terrano and up can do it but Xtrails are a bit low. 2" susp lift and/or bigger tyres 31/10/15 type makes it better. some flying stone protection is a good idea.

Accommodation is in hotels and desert camps but the quality can be "interesting". 2 sharing a room keeps the cost down. You need to be ready to rough it a bit.

Total cost at todays prices is sub £3000 including fuel and ferries.

I would be prepard to lead, organise and co-ordinate if people where willing.
I'm not making a profit, every thing passed on at cost and I am paying my own way.

Peter

Kamsin · 14-11-2012, 13:52

Sounds very interesting and something i love to have ago at. But iv planned to go to the US next year so don't think id be able to raise the cash this time.

manora · 14-11-2012, 17:28

PS to my message above.

Price would be for 2 in a vehicle.

Peter

stinka · 14-11-2012, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by manora

PS to my message above.

Price would be for 2 in a vehicle.

Peter

So £3k per vehicle with 2 sharing ?

solarman216 · 14-11-2012, 19:33

definitely interested in this, if I can persuade the other half to come, great, if not will be looking for a co driver, as long as I can bring my tool kit then that is all I need, are any more detatils available that might help me persuade Maggs? Rick

Fez_uk · 14-11-2012, 19:35

Would love to do this and want to one day. Don't think I will be able to afford it until a few years

briggie · 14-11-2012, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarman216

definitely interested in this, if I can persuade the other half to come, great, if not will be looking for a co driver, as long as I can bring my tool kit then that is all I need, are any more detatils available that might help me persuade Maggs? Rick

id love to go as your co driver , but would have trouble with a manual box /clutch etc ..... also i think it would create a lot of problems with my disability for everyone , and thats not fair ....... cant afford it anyway

manora · 14-11-2012, 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinka

So £3k per vehicle with 2 sharing ?

Yes, at today's prices about 3k would more than cover it.
Through Spain, 1 night, it would be cheap and cheerful small hotel. Fuel is currently about £1.12.
Fuel is cheap in Morocco, about 63p Lt. Double room with dinner and breakfast for 2 is about £37 a night.
That covers basics, and makes no allowance for inflation. Biggest costs are the ferries, UK Spain, if you booked now for next Oct, is about £500 rtn and the Maroc ferry is in the region of £180 rtn
If I get some serious interest then I will get detailed prices and put an itinerary together.
The basic idea is that we could meet either at the UK side and travel though Spain as a group or gather at Algeciras to get the Morocco ferry.

Peter

96terrano · 14-11-2012, 21:54

I'm too poor

manora · 16-11-2012, 17:48

Been having a think and I have decided that I am going anyway so this is really an invitation to join me. All the above info still applies.
This is the sort of place we will be staying at although the pictures do make it look a little grander than it is.
http://www.riadnomad.com
http://www.hotelnomadpalace.com/english/
The route is a mixture of gravel and rock desert tracks with a few sand tracks/dunes and river washed canyons and the odd salt flat thrown in. Also some tarmac links with fantastic scenery.
PM me if you want to talk and I will provide my phone number.
Peter

stinka · 16-11-2012, 18:24

I would love to come, but 3 young kids says I've got to go all inclusive to bloody Mexico or sommit :/

Bat21 · 16-11-2012, 20:44

Hey Peter, we will most likely be over there in September or maybe October too

Next year will be our 8th Morocco trip.... if anyone is thinking of going my advice would be to do it sooner rather than later, Morocco is a fast growing country that is changing fast.

melissachels · 17-11-2012, 10:32

i'd love to do this one day but as stinka said young kids means nope, and no pennies to boot

14-11-2012, 13:12	#1
manora Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North Wales Vehicle: 1998 Terrano 2 2.7 TDi SE Posts: 133	Morocco Bound? Just got back from Morocco following a group of enduro bikes round a route that takes in some Sahara and some Atlas mountains. Third time I've been and I'm now feeling confident enough to organise a trip myself. I'm looking for expressions of interest only at this stage for a trip next October. Depending on ferry timings we would be away between 3 and 4 weeks. The total mileage from my door to my door. North West Wales, is about 4000 miles which is about 1500 down, 1000 in the desert and mountains and about 1500 back. The off road sections are not extreme, Standard Terrano and up can do it but Xtrails are a bit low. 2" susp lift and/or bigger tyres 31/10/15 type makes it better. some flying stone protection is a good idea. Accommodation is in hotels and desert camps but the quality can be "interesting". 2 sharing a room keeps the cost down. You need to be ready to rough it a bit. Total cost at todays prices is sub £3000 including fuel and ferries. I would be prepard to lead, organise and co-ordinate if people where willing. I'm not making a profit, every thing passed on at cost and I am paying my own way. Peter

14-11-2012, 19:33	#5
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	definitely interested in this, if I can persuade the other half to come, great, if not will be looking for a co driver, as long as I can bring my tool kit then that is all I need, are any more detatils available that might help me persuade Maggs? Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

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14-11-2012, 13:52	#2
Kamsin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: East Midlands Vehicle: Maverick 4x4 2.7 TDI 97 Posts: 1,211	Sounds very interesting and something i love to have ago at. But iv planned to go to the US next year so don't think id be able to raise the cash this time.

14-11-2012, 17:28	#3
manora Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North Wales Vehicle: 1998 Terrano 2 2.7 TDi SE Posts: 133	PS to my message above. Price would be for 2 in a vehicle. Peter

14-11-2012, 19:35	#6
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	Would love to do this and want to one day. Don't think I will be able to afford it until a few years

14-11-2012, 21:54	#9
96terrano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7TD LWB Posts: 8,024	I'm too poor

16-11-2012, 17:48	#10
manora Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North Wales Vehicle: 1998 Terrano 2 2.7 TDi SE Posts: 133	Been having a think and I have decided that I am going anyway so this is really an invitation to join me. All the above info still applies. This is the sort of place we will be staying at although the pictures do make it look a little grander than it is. http://www.riadnomad.com http://www.hotelnomadpalace.com/english/ The route is a mixture of gravel and rock desert tracks with a few sand tracks/dunes and river washed canyons and the odd salt flat thrown in. Also some tarmac links with fantastic scenery. PM me if you want to talk and I will provide my phone number. Peter

16-11-2012, 18:24	#11
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	I would love to come, but 3 young kids says I've got to go all inclusive to bloody Mexico or sommit :/

16-11-2012, 20:44	#12
Bat21 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Shropshire Vehicle: Tonka Toy Posts: 1,044	Hey Peter, we will most likely be over there in September or maybe October too Next year will be our 8th Morocco trip.... if anyone is thinking of going my advice would be to do it sooner rather than later, Morocco is a fast growing country that is changing fast.

17-11-2012, 10:32	#13
melissachels Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Near Armagh, Northern Ireland Vehicle: half of a T2 2.7td swb Posts: 1,216	i'd love to do this one day but as stinka said young kids means nope, and no pennies to boot