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Adz · 04-02-2011, 14:02

What are your thoughts on the TAX Disc being scrapped as we pay it on fuel...

04-02-2011, 14:18

put an armed guard on yer fuel tank then lol,i like the idea as i have a fiddle on fuel that means my suplier gettin paid already for fuel he then sells to me half price lol

lacroupade · 04-02-2011, 14:24

all down to your annual mileage really. I'm happy having the T2 for local use and running something cheap, cheerful and economical inter-city

so works for me....

R1cho · 04-02-2011, 14:25

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Originally Posted by jace

put an armed guard on yer fuel tank then

Exactly, nobody's car would be safe, insurance premiums would sky rocket and the sale of new fuel tanks would go up lol

clivvy · 04-02-2011, 15:27

we'd end up worse off.

lacroupade · 04-02-2011, 15:40

well what about the new proposal that will make EVERY lorry in the UK pay a daily toll of £9 for using the roads. The idea apparently is that UK trucks will get relief (so thats Eddie fecked then HOHOHO) so that only foreign drivers end up paying. About bloody time.

(RIP) PLANK · 04-02-2011, 16:06

it is an odd situation, we already pay massive tax on fuel, and the road tax isn't spent on the roads.

Is it true that we pay vat on the fuel duty? if so we are even taxed on the tax! weird 'Value added tax' what value is there in paying fuel tax? so how can we them be taxed on it's value - it makes your head spin!

http://www.petrolprices.com/price-of-petrol.html

So, nice as it sounds, scrapping road tax, i don't think we ought to add anything to fuel costs as we pay enough bloody tax -and the more you use the more you pay already without adding any more

Adz · 04-02-2011, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacroupade

well what about the new proposal that will make EVERY lorry in the UK pay a daily toll of £9 for using the roads. The idea apparently is that UK trucks will get relief (so thats Eddie fecked then HOHOHO) so that only foreign drivers end up paying. About bloody time.

Should stop the w4nkers coming over with exception to the French & Dutch

But the flood gates are open so no turning back

Killed general haulage along with the pallet networks

04-02-2011, 17:15

yep you pay "fuel duty" on petrol/derv then "vat" on the whole amount incl the "vat" then every thing you buy to go on truck costs you in vat oils filters tyres then mot fee and of course road fund liscence! oh did i mention insurance premuim tax! good here ent it!
all to give some foreign bugger a nice house so he doesent feel persicuted!

(RIP) PLANK · 04-02-2011, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jace

yep you pay "fuel duty" on petrol/derv then "vat" on the whole amount incl the "vat" then every thing you buy to go on truck costs you in vat oils filters tyres then mot fee and of course road fund liscence! oh did i mention insurance premuim tax! good here ent it!
all to give some foreign bugger a nice house so he doesent feel persicuted!

Deleted account DD · 04-02-2011, 19:34

Ive long held that we should scrap vel and add tax onto fuel. Therefore those who do the mileage pay

makeitfit · 04-02-2011, 19:36

I think the ordinary car tax disc should be binned in favour of tax on the fuel.
Then reps etc who use the road the most will pay the most and so look for more efficient cars.
Those of us with old 2nd cars that get used three times a year use hardly any road surface.
Should save a fortune in the policing of cars with tax etc and the broody dvla nonesense.
The old excuse that it's to ensure the car is insured and mot'd is tosh.
I could get a 24hr instant ins policy and have a day left on the mot and get a tax disc.

I also think there should be some global insurance/mot thingy so you moyour car and get the insurance with it.
Make your own plans for lorrys ADZ

but essentialy truckers could claim back some duty as with VAT

04-02-2011, 19:38

a tax on non uk lorries would be against eu competition laws so ilegal! an theyd do whats eddie did by registering half the fleeet in belguim!

Adz · 04-02-2011, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jace

a tax on non uk lorries would be against eu competition laws so ilegal! an theyd do whats eddie did by registering half the fleeet in belguim!

Truckers with there own tanks or fuel cards get tax relief

But "daved"s hit the nail on the head along with "makeitfit" so the heavy users pay & the light users save

& with modern electrics the tax = insurance + mot is CRAP

briggie · 04-02-2011, 19:42

totally agree to scrap road fund licence for tax on fuel , with the anpr technology police can tell if a vehicle is insured / tested , instead of just looking at the disc .... win win win as far as i can see

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04-02-2011, 14:18	#2
jace Guest Posts: n/a	put an armed guard on yer fuel tank then lol,i like the idea as i have a fiddle on fuel that means my suplier gettin paid already for fuel he then sells to me half price lol

04-02-2011, 14:24	#3
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	all down to your annual mileage really. I'm happy having the T2 for local use and running something cheap, cheerful and economical inter-city so works for me....

04-02-2011, 15:27	#5
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	we'd end up worse off.

04-02-2011, 15:40	#6
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	well what about the new proposal that will make EVERY lorry in the UK pay a daily toll of £9 for using the roads. The idea apparently is that UK trucks will get relief (so thats Eddie fecked then HOHOHO) so that only foreign drivers end up paying. About bloody time.

04-02-2011, 16:06	#7
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	it is an odd situation, we already pay massive tax on fuel, and the road tax isn't spent on the roads. Is it true that we pay vat on the fuel duty? if so we are even taxed on the tax! weird 'Value added tax' what value is there in paying fuel tax? so how can we them be taxed on it's value - it makes your head spin! http://www.petrolprices.com/price-of-petrol.html So, nice as it sounds, scrapping road tax, i don't think we ought to add anything to fuel costs as we pay enough bloody tax -and the more you use the more you pay already without adding any more

04-02-2011, 17:15	#9
jace Guest Posts: n/a	yep you pay "fuel duty" on petrol/derv then "vat" on the whole amount incl the "vat" then every thing you buy to go on truck costs you in vat oils filters tyres then mot fee and of course road fund liscence! oh did i mention insurance premuim tax! good here ent it! all to give some foreign bugger a nice house so he doesent feel persicuted!

04-02-2011, 19:34	#11
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	Ive long held that we should scrap vel and add tax onto fuel. Therefore those who do the mileage pay

04-02-2011, 19:36	#12
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	I think the ordinary car tax disc should be binned in favour of tax on the fuel. Then reps etc who use the road the most will pay the most and so look for more efficient cars. Those of us with old 2nd cars that get used three times a year use hardly any road surface. Should save a fortune in the policing of cars with tax etc and the broody dvla nonesense. The old excuse that it's to ensure the car is insured and mot'd is tosh. I could get a 24hr instant ins policy and have a day left on the mot and get a tax disc. I also think there should be some global insurance/mot thingy so you moyour car and get the insurance with it. Make your own plans for lorrys ADZ but essentialy truckers could claim back some duty as with VAT

04-02-2011, 19:38	#13
jace Guest Posts: n/a	a tax on non uk lorries would be against eu competition laws so ilegal! an theyd do whats eddie did by registering half the fleeet in belguim!

04-02-2011, 19:42	#15
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	totally agree to scrap road fund licence for tax on fuel , with the anpr technology police can tell if a vehicle is insured / tested , instead of just looking at the disc .... win win win as far as i can see