So why don't YOU!!!!

[makeitfit]

OK but where is this national rally button then please

[extreme-4x4]

Originally Posted by Muzz

And just to prove a point that started all this controvasy and debate.
I did put "I know a tight arsed scot won't travel to essex"
Scot being singular not scot's being plural or general.

Jocky how long have I known you matey

well in that case it should be
i know a tight arsed scot who wont travel to essex

otherwise

i know a tight arsed scot wont travel to essex............ can cause offence as this could be any scot . and not neseserilly the one you know


but its your choice i dont mind either way... your original question has been answered
we have all had a good chat about it

and i for one have been excused form confirming my booking for the national for the time being... thanks tubbs

thanks to everyone sorting the national rally ... great work and i really do hope to be there

[extreme-4x4]

its here pete


http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum...splay.php?f=20

[makeitfit]

Yeh thanks for that but I looked at it before. Still cant see WHAT actually happens
Is it a bit of laning or a trail or just tin tents?
I dont know

[extreme-4x4]

to be honest i really have not looked into it too much....
but then for me, as its the big one ill try to go even if its just camping , chatting and a few beers. just to meet everyone. if its not off road im sure something will come up.
either on route or near by...

[makeitfit]

I'm a bit in the dark as to what happens so I've pm Tubbs to see whats what.

[willow]

well i have just had time to come on line after a very long day and well.......
Ummmm

Sorry Tubbs
I will not be going to the national rally
I did put my name down for it and was looking forward to it but......

I will PM you

[Jocky]

Originally Posted by Muzz

And just to prove a point that started all this controvasy and debate.
I did put "I know a tight arsed scot won't travel to essex"
Scot being singular not scot's being plural or general.

Jocky how long have I known you matey

No worries mate, just rattling some cages Ya tight arsed mancunian did I spell that right

Some very sensitive people on tonight

What are we going to do at the rally anyway

[dinky]

As Muzz and Jocky have stated tried having 2 rallies north/south.Last year and finished at same old place.SO BACK TUBBS and COMMIT TO THIS.Never know you might enjoy it.

[Bat21]

On my motorcycle site we have an active membership of just under 9,000.

We have 8 National events each year, 2 in Scotland, 2 in Ireland, 2 in England and 1 in Wales. Each event is attended by approximately 150 members which equates to 1.6% of the 9,000.

It appears that 14 members here have expressed an interest in this years Nation Event here, this equates to approximately 1.75% of the active membership here, so the figures are very similar.

In any Club/community there will always be an active 2% of it’s membership that are the movers and shakers i.e. the ones that put in that extra effort to try and motivate people…. unfortunately the other 98% will just sit back and not want to join in or get involved, it’s called human apathy.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

We've called it a National for 5 years as its been the biggest gathering each year
and until other meets get esteablished it will continue to be the National. Just as
many other things are off centre in the UK ie The Grand National @ Aintree and
even central (!) government.

The Caravan Club National is typically at a stately home bounded by the the M1,
M62, M6, M5, M4 and the nw M25 - and could more accurately be called the
English National and there are also Scottish, Welsh and Irish Nats. Also within the
CC are regional 'nationals' ie the 6 Yorkshire centres which in turn take it in turn
to host. Suggest for those that want more, or nearer get organising as I sure
Tubbs and Co would be happy to advise.

[Deleted Member D]

Originally Posted by Bat21

On my motorcycle site we have an active membership of just under 9,000.

We have 8 National events each year, 2 in Scotland, 2 in Ireland, 2 in England and 1 in Wales. Each event is attended by approximately 150 members which equates to 1.6% of the 9,000.

It appears that 14 members here have expressed an interest in this years Nation Event here, this equates to approximately 1.75% of the active membership here, so the figures are very similar.

In any Club/community there will always be an active 2% of it’s membership that are the movers and shakers i.e. the ones that put in that extra effort to try and motivate people…. unfortunately the other 98% will just sit back and not want to join in or get involved, it’s called human apathy.

Apathy = Is a state of mind in which you do not care about anything.

[extreme-4x4]

for me it dont matter where it is.
it could be scotland or the isle of weight , i will still try my best to get there.
if you had 1, 2 or 10 id still try the same

personally i dont think i was being too sensitive . but maybe i was . who knows
one thing to concider... unless your a policeman a postman a nurse a teacher. or in the armed forces, everyone else goes to bed at night and worries if they will have a job in the morning.
and if they do actually get some sleep. and this is real it really does happen
everyone is going skint and people are loosing there jobs without notice or much prospect of getting another job in the near future.

so when we tuck our kids in at night, we do prey we dont loose there homes.

so some really cant commit and maybe are very touchy about some subjects.


i work in construction . and that's been on its knees for around 6 months now. and im not quite ticking over work wise.
now as a tiler , i have had to work outside often fitting windows laying bricks /blocks, roofing , scafolding, fitting kitchens .
generally anything that pays the bills


i dont like it and doubt many would, even if they would do it

im a skilled tiler and normally run jobs with several other skilled workers in my team. having to work for some spotty little shit who can say when you arrive for work. "no sorry nothing happening today"
so you have wasted a day and fuel 15.00 a day when you could have worked for someone else that day... i really dont like my situation

and do worry

some of the older members rely on the interest on investments or shares
its the same for them, there is little intereset and shares have plumeted

so having explained what is happening every day to everyday people

im sure you will understand its impossible to commit to a rally.

oh and one other thing... in construction 18 years ago i earned 15.00 an hour or 15.00 a metre

last year i earned 15.00 an hour or 15.00 a metre

so for 18 years construction workers have had no pay rise.

so how many civil servants or bus drivers would go 18 years without a pay rise. .......you'd all be out on strick after the first year


right now we are working for much less if we can get a day here or there...
so in the credit crunch ..... how many of you civil servants are going to take a pay decrease... your jobs are safe so is your pay....and homes.
well till next year when you start crying for more money or go on strike


so please i dont want to moan or stop people having there say or fun... really i dont. just bare in mind what other families are going through

normally id sighn up and pay up front without question

[tezzer]

well said mate.






tezzer

[zippy656]

Originally Posted by tezzer

well said mate.






tezzer

yep, its not easy to do as we like all the time
Zippy