Dale Farm...

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by solarman216

OK point taken, Rick

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Originally Posted by Adz

Pointless statement I'm affraid as people took the P when I said there was no real 4x4 talk on here hence me going over to the 4WD Club.
What song moves you has sweet FA to do with 4x4's.....................



Thank-you

Perhaps if you spent less time making negative comments about the site
and contributed the sort of posts you say it lacks we'd have less of these
nothing threads. As for the other place I'd be suprised if it has no pub
or joke area as every other forum I use has a mixture.

Lost public rights of way are by definition on private land so 'our' right to
roam is nothing compared to the abuse of someone's property.

Perhaps in a round about way Basildon will resolve this though I'm sure it
will be more of a fortunate coincidence, just as its a unforturnute one that
saw the loss and probably in the overall scheme of things going to fall way
down the list of priorities.

[Adz]

If it's a nothing thread then it is well suited to this forum as it's not a proper 4x4 forum anymore...
& for a "nothing thread" it seem's to have enough hit's to say people are curious or interested...
Yes the other forum's have "virtual pub's / banter / general" area's but they do stick to 4x4 / vehicle based thread's.!
Apart from the thread : New Project by Flying Torquewrench which is absolutely breath taking & can't praise him enough there isn't much else on here that is 4x4 related...
This thread relate's to public right of way which is 4x4 related & very much in the news...
I tried to the point of no return to do local meets & laning trips as did extreme-4x4 & we had no interest, so that sums it up to me...
So what do i now have to post to become a something thread...

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by Adz

If it's a nothing thread then it is well suited to this forum as it's not a proper 4x4 forum anymore...

Waaaayyyyyyyy waaaayyyyyyyy waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy off the mark.

Your post set me off thinking , and monitoring and as pointed out to you your aproach to matters 4x4 are the main problem. Theres as many topics on 4x4s as there are beers to sup so you may not find anything you want on here just like going into ( as they were) a courage pub in the sarf.

However this is a nissan 4x4 owners club and when i logged in tonight the new posts were pretty typical of the way the club is going, 54 of them and every one bar 2 relating to nissan 4x4 vehicles and activities

[Adz]

Yeah, I'll agree with that

[gazrick]

So its the health and safety of Vocabulary........what is the world coming to when you can't say words in case someone else is offended.

MODIFED I find offensive , especially when it involves those that wish to spread their do-good chastisement of free speech.

Negative English attitudes towards "pikeys" were a running theme in the 2000 Guy Ritchie film Snatch {So don't watch this film}. In 2003 the Firle Bonfire Society burned an effigy of a family of gypsies inside a caravan after travelers damaged local land. The number plate on the caravan read P1KEY. A storm of protests and accusations of racism rapidly followed. Twelve members of the society were arrested but the Crown Prosecution Service decided that there was insufficient evidence to proceed on a charge of 'incitement to racial hatred'.

The fact is, if you mention to people in West Wales "pikey" they think your talking about fish!

On the point of removals @ Dale farm, I think they should clear the one side of it that has the offending buildings and move them the the other end.

Upon which they could then errect huge towers of scaffolding and stack the caravans so they peer really high above the landscape and high above the green belt - PROBLEM SOLVED

[Adz]

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by gazrick

So its the health and safety of Vocabulary........what is the world coming to when you can't say words in case someone else is offended.

MODIFED I find offensive , especially when it involves those that wish to spread their do-good chastisement of free speech.

Negative English attitudes towards "pikeys" were a running theme in the 2000 Guy Ritchie film Snatch {So don't watch this film}. In 2003 the Firle Bonfire Society burned an effigy of a family of gypsies inside a caravan after travelers damaged local land. The number plate on the caravan read P1KEY. A storm of protests and accusations of racism rapidly followed. Twelve members of the society were arrested but the Crown Prosecution Service decided that there was insufficient evidence to proceed on a charge of 'incitement to racial hatred'.

The fact is, if you mention to people in West Wales "pikey" they think your talking about fish!

On the point of removals @ Dale farm, I think they should clear the one side of it that has the offending buildings and move them the the other end.

Upon which they could then errect huge towers of scaffolding and stack the caravans so they peer really high above the landscape and high above the green belt - PROBLEM SOLVED

Its a difficult one for the simple reason that there are two types of so-called travellers; a few are genuine Roma and have maintained their lifestyle for many hundreds of years, the bulk however are n'ere-do-wells from the Irish Republic (not reflecting in any way the general population there) who choose to live on the road because its the easiest way to escape taxes and general social responsibility (except for themselves) and be free to dump their rubbish, tarmac and tree cuttings anywhere they choose.

My humble view is that anyone who chooses to live outside society is denied the usual rights that the rest of us have, i.e. access to health, education etc..

And not sure which bit of West Wales you live in but its clearly a long way from the road to Haverford West LOL. In Llandovery we choose to close our shop for 2-3 weeks every year when the car park is taken over by several dozen caravans and left like a shithole after they are finally driven off by the council - otherwise we get shoplifters in almost daily.

I don't care if you're black, white, green or yellow, english, irish or bloody chinese, if you shit up my countryside and don't pay your taxes then you get what you deserve.

This whole Dale Farm thing is just a planning issue that needs stamping on, because if it isn't I'll just put a nice bungalow up in a green field by the river and say "I'm a traveller you can't touch me...".

As for the activists that turned up there, euthenasia would be my recommendation.

[Deleted account DD]

well said that cranky old git

[Adz]

Originally Posted by lacroupade

Its a difficult one for the simple reason that there are two types of so-called travellers; a few are genuine Roma and have maintained their lifestyle for many hundreds of years, the bulk however are n'ere-do-wells from the Irish Republic (not reflecting in any way the general population there) who choose to live on the road because its the easiest way to escape taxes and general social responsibility (except for themselves) and be free to dump their rubbish, tarmac and tree cuttings anywhere they choose.

My humble view is that anyone who chooses to live outside society is denied the usual rights that the rest of us have, i.e. access to health, education etc..

And not sure which bit of West Wales you live in but its clearly a long way from the road to Haverford West LOL. In Llandovery we choose to close our shop for 2-3 weeks every year when the car park is taken over by several dozen caravans and left like a shithole after they are finally driven off by the council - otherwise we get shoplifters in almost daily.

I don't care if you're black, white, green or yellow, english, irish or bloody chinese, if you shit up my countryside and don't pay your taxes then you get what you deserve.

This whole Dale Farm thing is just a planning issue that needs stamping on, because if it isn't I'll just put a nice bungalow up in a green field by the river and say "I'm a traveller you can't touch me...".

As for the activists that turned up there, euthenasia would be my recommendation.

Originally Posted by daved

well said that cranky old git

[felixthelogchopper]

Originally Posted by lacroupade

Its a difficult one for the simple reason that there are two types of so-called travellers; a few are genuine Roma and have maintained their lifestyle for many hundreds of years, the bulk however are n'ere-do-wells from the Irish Republic (not reflecting in any way the general population there) who choose to live on the road because its the easiest way to escape taxes and general social responsibility (except for themselves) and be free to dump their rubbish, tarmac and tree cuttings anywhere they choose.

My humble view is that anyone who chooses to live outside society is denied the usual rights that the rest of us have, i.e. access to health, education etc..

And not sure which bit of West Wales you live in but its clearly a long way from the road to Haverford West LOL. In Llandovery we choose to close our shop for 2-3 weeks every year when the car park is taken over by several dozen caravans and left like a shithole after they are finally driven off by the council - otherwise we get shoplifters in almost daily.

I don't care if you're black, white, green or yellow, english, irish or bloody chinese, if you shit up my countryside and don't pay your taxes then you get what you deserve.

This whole Dale Farm thing is just a planning issue that needs stamping on, because if it isn't I'll just put a nice bungalow up in a green field by the river and say "I'm a traveller you can't touch me...".

As for the activists that turned up there, euthenasia would be my recommendation.

Best take on the whole issue yet.

[Adz]

At long last the Police are removing the hippy protesters that have nothing to do with the site & are bulldozing the far end of the site

I am also glad to see that the byway that had been blocked is now drivable along with 1 of the 3 footpaths but not the bridleways

[gazrick]

Great!

At least there will be enough firewood around for a nice big bonfire next month

Zero Carbon - sounds good.

[Adz]

Most of it's been burnt already

Been sirens on & off all day & the police helicopters been above all day on & off...

[4wheel]

On Sunday I took a cruise through Stow on the Wold in the Cotswolds(as you do) and lo and behold the place was surrounded by travellers.In fact they were quite comfy on the edge of the Sainsbury's car park as well.They seem to have made themselves at home in a couple of fields and along some of the roads. I think that may upset a few posh folk.