live axle chat again... - Page 2

AlexD333 · 31-01-2015, 20:47

Tyre size is not set in stone yet.

I am accumulating more info first, and work will start once I know what order I can do work, I e, what bits I buy first.

I may go to 35" I haven't really decided.

Although temporarily Lower than my truck I may just get the live axle mod done dependant on the gearing before the tyres, that way all I have to do is stick bigger wheels on.

Again, this may be counter productive as the gearing might be too short without the bigger wheels I really don't know, so as I say, once I start to piece together the ratios ect I will get a better idea of what needs to be bought when

For example, I wont need to jack up another 8" immediately

or will I?

AlexD333 · 31-01-2015, 20:49

Oh and on that note, as I will require new suspension front and rear I may just get hold of a temp second hand kit as a "stepping stone" a size that the standard steering column and brake hoses can deal with. I guess a +2/3" kit off something with live axles

makeitfit · 31-01-2015, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by bud

have i missed anything? hope not as this is what i plan to do.

Panhard rod and mount.
Modified front prop.
Workshop and hired help

AlexD333 · 31-01-2015, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Panhard rod and mount.
Modified front prop.
Workshop and hired help

See I'd love it, if I could just drop the terrano off with someone, after acquiring the "shopping list" of necessary parts needed and leave it with them for a set period of time.

All I worry about is leaving it with someone and they keep requiring more and more parts as would have to wait again for future payday.

briggie · 31-01-2015, 23:13

I wonder if rick is reading this and raising his eyes ?

makeitfit · 31-01-2015, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexD333

See I'd love it, if I could just drop the terrano off with someone, after acquiring the "shopping list" of necessary parts needed and leave it with them for a set period of time.

All I worry about is leaving it with someone and they keep requiring more and more parts as would have to wait again for future payday.

The shopping list is small, the fabrication is the work mate. It's not a kit you can order and bolt on . So the job has to be done by an experienced fabricator. Then it's make it as you go. You've read already the work involved in just modding a hilux axle ! That's why I suggest you go patrol axle.
There's a very good thread on another forum I've saved somewhere. That "might" give you an idea.

makeitfit · 01-02-2015, 00:05

Oh wash my mouth out, I've found a kit

Sit yourself down before you open this link Alex

https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/nissa...5-p-57971.html

makeitfit · 01-02-2015, 00:08

Here's right up on a pro job. I know it's over the top for what you're after but the principle of the job is the same.
http://forum.ruggedrocksoffroad.com/...4&topic=2362.0

Barrbeast · 01-02-2015, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexD333

Oh and on that note, as I will require new suspension front and rear I may just get hold of a temp second hand kit as a "stepping stone" a size that the standard steering column and brake hoses can deal with. I guess a +2/3" kit off something with live axles

You'll need to know the type of shock mounts and spring mounts etc before you can get a hold of any suspension kits as the set ups aren't identical...

Also, max lift with standard brake pipes etc depends on the vehicle.

There's gonna be a lot of unknowns until it's done and even then I doubt you're gonna just be able to buy a suspension kit straight off another vehicle

bry · 01-02-2015, 01:28

Methinks i would buy a Trol.?
And then do Mods...

AlexD333 · 01-02-2015, 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by bry

Methinks i would buy a Trol.?
And then do Mods...

Nope, a trol is out of the question for atleast another 2/3 years, really, it is

I will have a read of the build above, 9,000 dollars is far far more than I want to pay but I will read for principles sake

Thanks for having a dig about.

Chatting with bud he seems to steer towards the hilux ln106 as certain parts will need very little alteration, I e, the shafts.

On the other hand people mention patrol, but seems to steer towards new transfer or gearbox

bud · 01-02-2015, 08:47

for every ones benefit,
If you are considering doing a SAS on a medium sized vehicle such as the Mistral/T2, the hilux axles have a similar track to the t2, where as the patrols is a good 6-8 inches wider, no amount of offset is going to get the wheels in under the arches, and the pivot angle on the hubs mean you will be hitting the front edge of your doors on less then full lock.
this would mean having to push the front axle forward away from the desired axix to have the axle mounted.

Also the patrol's gearbox is longer meaning the front shaft would have to be cut and shortened, where as the hilux's cardon shaft can simply have the flange at the transfer end changed to match the T2's transfer case.

At one point i seriously considered just buying a old farm hack hilux and sticking the mistral's body onto the hilux chassi and implanting the nissan's engine and box as apposed to stripping the hilux's axles and altering them to fit the mistral.

AlexD333 · 01-02-2015, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by bud

for every ones benefit,
If you are considering doing a SAS on a medium sized vehicle such as the Mistral/T2, the hilux axles have a similar track to the t2, where as the patrols is a good 6-8 inches wider, no amount of offset is going to get the wheels in under the arches, and the pivot angle on the hubs mean you will be hitting the front edge of your doors on less then full lock.
this would mean having to push the front axle forward away from the desired axix to have the axle mounted.

Also the patrol's gearbox is longer meaning the front shaft would have to be cut and shortened, where as the hilux's cardon shaft can simply have the flange at the transfer end changed to match the T2's transfer case.

At one point i seriously considered just buying a old farm hack hilux and sticking the mistral's body onto the hilux chassi and implanting the nissan's engine and box as apposed to stripping the hilux's axles and altering them to fit the mistral.

Very clever dude

I will keep my eyes peeled for chassis and axles of a hilux ln106 then.

Problem here in the uk is that they get exportd for silly money to Africa and the likes. But theoretically it doesent matter if the thing is burnt out, all I need are the axles and certain chassis points

AlexD333 · 01-02-2015, 12:15

If I could steal something like this (the white one)

Barrbeast · 01-02-2015, 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexD333

Nope, a trol is out of the question for atleast another 2/3 years, really, it is

Mate, if you've decided you're going to get a Trol in 2-3 years time anyway why are you looking to spend all this time and money on modding the Terrano

Doesn't make sense to me if you're not planning to keep the Terrano especially as the SAS mod will more than likely bring it down in value. Just sell the Terrano now and use the money you get plus the cash you'd spend on the SAS conversion to buy yourself a Trol

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31-01-2015, 20:47	#16
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Tyre size is not set in stone yet. I am accumulating more info first, and work will start once I know what order I can do work, I e, what bits I buy first. I may go to 35" I haven't really decided. Although temporarily Lower than my truck I may just get the live axle mod done dependant on the gearing before the tyres, that way all I have to do is stick bigger wheels on. Again, this may be counter productive as the gearing might be too short without the bigger wheels I really don't know, so as I say, once I start to piece together the ratios ect I will get a better idea of what needs to be bought when For example, I wont need to jack up another 8" immediately or will I?

31-01-2015, 20:49	#17
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Oh and on that note, as I will require new suspension front and rear I may just get hold of a temp second hand kit as a "stepping stone" a size that the standard steering column and brake hoses can deal with. I guess a +2/3" kit off something with live axles

31-01-2015, 23:13	#20
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	I wonder if rick is reading this and raising his eyes ?

01-02-2015, 00:05	#22
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Oh wash my mouth out, I've found a kit Sit yourself down before you open this link Alex https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/nissa...5-p-57971.html

01-02-2015, 00:08	#23
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Here's right up on a pro job. I know it's over the top for what you're after but the principle of the job is the same. http://forum.ruggedrocksoffroad.com/...4&topic=2362.0

01-02-2015, 01:28	#25
bry Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: South Yorkshire.. Vehicle: Nissan Terrano MK 2 SE Posts: 1,757	Methinks i would buy a Trol.? And then do Mods...

01-02-2015, 08:47	#27
bud Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: new zealand Vehicle: Terrano 2 Posts: 254	for every ones benefit, If you are considering doing a SAS on a medium sized vehicle such as the Mistral/T2, the hilux axles have a similar track to the t2, where as the patrols is a good 6-8 inches wider, no amount of offset is going to get the wheels in under the arches, and the pivot angle on the hubs mean you will be hitting the front edge of your doors on less then full lock. this would mean having to push the front axle forward away from the desired axix to have the axle mounted. Also the patrol's gearbox is longer meaning the front shaft would have to be cut and shortened, where as the hilux's cardon shaft can simply have the flange at the transfer end changed to match the T2's transfer case. At one point i seriously considered just buying a old farm hack hilux and sticking the mistral's body onto the hilux chassi and implanting the nissan's engine and box as apposed to stripping the hilux's axles and altering them to fit the mistral.