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Old 03-01-2013, 21:39   #16
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Perhaps I'd be better coming off the single wire to the double socket in the garage. Use a joint box here and spur off into a commandos socket like this :

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Old 03-01-2013, 21:41   #17
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You asked: "What ya think ?"

I (and others) think it is dangerous.
I think you should follow edgertons advice.... Please.
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Perhaps I'd be better coming off the single wire to the double socket in the garage. Use a joint box here and spur off into a commandos socket like this :

http://bit.ly/VFlL3o

??
Thats a 32A unit, way to big, 16A is more than sufficient, about 5 quid for the socket and 2 quid for the plug at screwfix. Then get a D type MCB for the garage CU, about 4 quid.
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Old 03-01-2013, 22:43   #19
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I am confused stinka, you are currently running a welder on a 13 amp plug and the 32 amp MCB is tripping not the 13 amp plug fuse, have I got that right, Rick
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I'm thinking of bodging this

I'm going to use this :

http://bit.ly/Tzjtp1

Will use it to split the cable into 2 so running 2x13amp plug on two flex coming in to block, there fore 26amp supply

What ya think ?

Obviously I'll tape it up severely and then some more and only use it when no ones about

I think it will work all though its a bodge
No one with any electrical knowledge would agree with this...
And anybody with no electrical knowledge should not be agreeing with it either.

The blue 16 Amp plug / socket as used on caravans, should be adequate, provided that the cable and fusing is suitable for the application.

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Old 03-01-2013, 23:00   #21
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I am confused stinka, you are currently running a welder on a 13 amp plug and the 32 amp MCB is tripping not the 13 amp plug fuse, have I got that right, Rick
No, my welder needs 16amp at full chat and is limited by my 13amp domestic plug

It's got a 16amp rcd
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Tbh thinking about it my mate used to do dj gigs with widowmakers when we were young !
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No, my welder needs 16amp at full chat and is limited by my 13amp domestic plug

It's got a 16amp rcd
Then I would be changing the MCB for 32 amp (your cable is well big enough) and as it supplies a double socket 16 amp is not enough anyway, regards the widow maker, I use one to run a big pressure washer for washing customers drives at home I use a blue socket but private houses rarely have them, like anything else you use your initiative and I have never been a fan of H & S anyway, having said that I would put a blue socket along side your double and plug your welder into this and I would stay with the B type MCB as this will better protect any equipment in the 13 amp sockets, Rick
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Old 03-01-2013, 23:50   #24
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Then I would be changing the MCB for 32 amp (your cable is well big enough) and as it supplies a double socket 16 amp is not enough anyway, regards the widow maker, I use one to run a big pressure washer for washing customers drives at home I use a blue socket but private houses rarely have them, like anything else you use your initiative and I have never been a fan of H & S anyway, having said that I would put a blue socket along side your double and plug your welder into this and I would stay with the B type MCB as this will better protect any equipment in the 13 amp sockets, Rick
Cheers mate

I think a widow maker has its place, its not ideal but its as safe as you make it.

Its no more dangerous than working on domestic electrics ... Someone could turn the bloody MCB back on whilst you are working on it.

We just have to do our best to safe guard
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Btw rick the MCB is 32amp, its the RCD that's 16amp
That should be fine I think ...

After all it was only the 13 amp fuse blowing in the domestic plug I put on the welder
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