Fuel protests could bring the UK to a standstill - Page 2

Peasgood · 08-01-2011, 01:09

We are loaning Ireland £7billion at a higher interest rate than we are borrowing the same money at. Makes quite clever business sense to me.
Get your facts right or just carry on thinking sending a load of ragheads home will get you paying less on your fuel.

tezzer · 08-01-2011, 01:33

so what's your problem peasgood??? and who mentioned people who wear cloth on their heads, not me, so you get your facts right before you post.

extreme-4x4 · 08-01-2011, 16:44

this fuel thing is all a simple case of supply and demand

you need it so they will sell it to you... at there rates, and thats just how it is NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT

protest all you want, but joe public still needs fuel , to go to work to pay there bills. so unless you chuck your mortgages in and go on the dole in rented accommodation, where the gov will pay your rent for a short period .

we best get used to the idea fuel is going to cost shit loads £1.37 a litre i paid today in mid wales .

went there today to price a job and ooooph the woman there was fit fit fit

lacroupade · 08-01-2011, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

this fuel thing is all a simple case of supply and demand

you need it so they will sell it to you... at there rates, and thats just how it is NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT

protest all you want, but joe public still needs fuel , to go to work to pay there bills. so unless you chuck your mortgages in and go on the dole in rented accommodation, where the gov will pay your rent for a short period .

we best get used to the idea fuel is going to cost shit loads £1.37 a litre i paid today in mid wales .

went there today to price a job and ooooph the woman there was fit fit fit

but its not the oil companies rates is it, its the governments.....

(RIP) PLANK · 08-01-2011, 16:59

i don't see what the raationship of the UK to Eire has to do with fuel prices, or the existance of "multi cultural" familes. Why bthere needs to be theis undertone to this thread amazes me!

Our issue is being ripped off for our fuel, didn't the gvenment intoruduce some new law (or change in the existing law( afte rht efirst fuel protests to make it easier for the police to crack down, hence the second set f protests not getting very far?

The torubel with blockading refinerys is they are all miles away from me, and at these peices i can't afford the fuel to get there

now about a 'lazy protest' if millions of people all just took a day off, a personal stirke, that would impact the economy and they would have to take notice. Jut one day everyone in the uk who doesn't agree with present policies just don't play the game for a day

tezzer · 08-01-2011, 17:45

[QUOTE=PLANK;124898]i don't see what the raationship of the UK to Eire has to do with fuel prices, or the existance of "multi cultural" familes. Why bthere needs to be theis undertone to this thread amazes me!

well this government want to save money, but they found £7 billion for ireland, when we are supposed to be skint,
mult cultural families, well how many shouldn't be here for a start, they claim for all sort of relatives and that does happen, so why dont the government start sorting the fraudulant claims and save millions there, oh know put up petrol tax it's easier.

clivvy · 08-01-2011, 18:03

I think the government IS cracking down on benefit abuse, to save money, so lets see how that goes.

as for fuel, I agree its outrageous, but I also understand that there is nothing anyone can do to get it lower, and thats not because we are all weak or cant be bothered, its because those in power DONT CARE. The fuel is going up full stop, its crap, and its going to hurt, and with luck it will be that hurt, that affects millions, that will get the government doing something about it.

what gets me is, we need oil to make fuel, but doesnt "England" own many off shore refineries? why cant we use our own oil?? why do we have to buy it in?

seems to me that this country has lost its self sufficiency, in the name of saving a few quid, except the savings arent passed on, like with fuel.

Deleted account DD · 08-01-2011, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peasgood

We are loaning Ireland £7billion at a higher interest rate than we are borrowing the same money at. Makes quite clever business sense to me.
Get your facts right or just carry on thinking sending a load of ************ home will get you paying less on your fuel.

Not sure about the terminology but the point made is absolutely bang

Far too much emphasis is made waffling and whinging about the money thats syphoned of by immigrants on the fiddle. The simple fact however is that more brits are screwing the system than any other group

NO ONE should be allowed to screw the system, the whole lot are being clamped down on.

As far as the Ireland bail out goes, its laughingly good business sense. We use our crediting rating to raise money for Ireland because they cant, we then make on it and the profit goes to sorting our problems without costing us anything at all.

I just cant fault it

Back to fuel strikes............

The will may be there to protest but I doubt the ability to sustain is there any longer.

Deleted account DD · 08-01-2011, 19:14

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Originally Posted by PLANK

The torubel with blockading refinerys is they are all miles away from me, and at these peices i can't afford the fuel to get there

or have enough derv in the tank to get home afterwards

rakerman · 08-01-2011, 19:58

Wouldn't be so bad if an increase was gonna be spent on the roads and developing greener fuel or whatever.

I don't see why motorists and hauliers etc should be singled out to help reduce our national debt. Should the nation together not contribute with a smaller rise in income tax? Would seem fairer. Those on unemployment benefit should get a cut if they're not paying income tax,

Just seems to me this country's always "robbing Peter to pay Paul"

(RIP) PLANK · 08-01-2011, 20:12

[QUOTE=tezzer;124910]

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLANK

i don't see what the raationship of the UK to Eire has to do with fuel prices, or the existance of "multi cultural" familes. Why bthere needs to be theis undertone to this thread amazes me!

well this government want to save money, but they found £7 billion for ireland, when we are supposed to be skint,
mult cultural families, well how many shouldn't be here for a start, they claim for all sort of relatives and that does happen, so why dont the government start sorting the fraudulant claims and save millions there, oh know put up petrol tax it's easier.

the Eire question has been answere, sound finaicial sense, plus the uk being a ood neighbour and perhaps helping to put past problems behind both nations.

again, benefits and imigration (along with Eire) have no relationship to fuel! You have to pay the same price at the pumps whatever benefits you claim and whatever the colour of your skin. It's this kind of decisivmness that helps the government out, blaming everyone else, the divide and rule mentality that makes us loosers every time! The issue is fuel focus on that and maybe people could make a difference.

08-01-2011, 20:27

veg oil lol been covered on here before because theres no hope of getting them to drop fuel tax and then vat on that tax! and the people who created this mess are sat on back benches writing there memoirs and dreaming of after dinner speaches for city bankers!
as for sending immagrants home watch that border force on one the freeview channels they raid areest illegals working in takeways etc then bail them with condition they dont do it again and report back to be deported ....it dont take a genuis to work out they aint gonna (turkys voting for christmass lol) when they do deport em charter a plane then there was 52 custody officers pls all the coaches etc one guy been paying tax for last ten yrs so how they not know he was here!
countrys a joke but at least were not french !

(RIP) PLANK · 08-01-2011, 20:30

verg oil, home made bio fuels, why did they drope the tax?

more ways to divide the oposition!

and we all love having some one else to blame, 'it's them bloomin foreigners!'

a nation of Alf Garnet clones

The best way forward is to concentrate on one issue at a time, and the inability to do that is why we keep getting shafted

Deleted account DD · 08-01-2011, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLANK

verg oil, home made bio fuels, why did they drope the tax?

more ways to divide the oposition!

and we all love having some one else to blame, 'it's them bloomin foreigners!'

a nation of Alf Garnet clones

The best way forward is to concentrate on one issue at a time, and the inability to do that is why we keep getting shafted

08-01-2011, 20:59

leave the eu should save few billions trouble is no one in the eu knows where the money is ,send all foreinors to afghanistan as mine detection specialists bung few students who think it funny to piss on monuments drunk/high on mater an paters allowence and best of all evict betty an phil the greek job done countrys back in the black ! simpleeze

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08-01-2011, 01:09	#16
Peasgood Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: North West Vehicle: Terrano Posts: 228	We are loaning Ireland £7billion at a higher interest rate than we are borrowing the same money at. Makes quite clever business sense to me. Get your facts right or just carry on thinking sending a load of ragheads home will get you paying less on your fuel.

08-01-2011, 01:33	#17
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	so what's your problem peasgood??? and who mentioned people who wear cloth on their heads, not me, so you get your facts right before you post.

08-01-2011, 16:44	#18
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	this fuel thing is all a simple case of supply and demand you need it so they will sell it to you... at there rates, and thats just how it is NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT protest all you want, but joe public still needs fuel , to go to work to pay there bills. so unless you chuck your mortgages in and go on the dole in rented accommodation, where the gov will pay your rent for a short period . we best get used to the idea fuel is going to cost shit loads £1.37 a litre i paid today in mid wales . went there today to price a job and ooooph the woman there was fit fit fit

08-01-2011, 16:59	#20
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	i don't see what the raationship of the UK to Eire has to do with fuel prices, or the existance of "multi cultural" familes. Why bthere needs to be theis undertone to this thread amazes me! Our issue is being ripped off for our fuel, didn't the gvenment intoruduce some new law (or change in the existing law( afte rht efirst fuel protests to make it easier for the police to crack down, hence the second set f protests not getting very far? The torubel with blockading refinerys is they are all miles away from me, and at these peices i can't afford the fuel to get there now about a 'lazy protest' if millions of people all just took a day off, a personal stirke, that would impact the economy and they would have to take notice. Jut one day everyone in the uk who doesn't agree with present policies just don't play the game for a day

08-01-2011, 17:45	#21
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	[QUOTE=PLANK;124898]i don't see what the raationship of the UK to Eire has to do with fuel prices, or the existance of "multi cultural" familes. Why bthere needs to be theis undertone to this thread amazes me! well this government want to save money, but they found £7 billion for ireland, when we are supposed to be skint, mult cultural families, well how many shouldn't be here for a start, they claim for all sort of relatives and that does happen, so why dont the government start sorting the fraudulant claims and save millions there, oh know put up petrol tax it's easier.

08-01-2011, 18:03	#22
clivvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Huddersfield Vehicle: Terrano 03 LWB Posts: 6,947	I think the government IS cracking down on benefit abuse, to save money, so lets see how that goes. as for fuel, I agree its outrageous, but I also understand that there is nothing anyone can do to get it lower, and thats not because we are all weak or cant be bothered, its because those in power DONT CARE. The fuel is going up full stop, its crap, and its going to hurt, and with luck it will be that hurt, that affects millions, that will get the government doing something about it. what gets me is, we need oil to make fuel, but doesnt "England" own many off shore refineries? why cant we use our own oil?? why do we have to buy it in? seems to me that this country has lost its self sufficiency, in the name of saving a few quid, except the savings arent passed on, like with fuel.

08-01-2011, 19:58	#25
rakerman Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Scotland Vehicle: Terrano 3.0d commercial Posts: 70	Wouldn't be so bad if an increase was gonna be spent on the roads and developing greener fuel or whatever. I don't see why motorists and hauliers etc should be singled out to help reduce our national debt. Should the nation together not contribute with a smaller rise in income tax? Would seem fairer. Those on unemployment benefit should get a cut if they're not paying income tax, Just seems to me this country's always "robbing Peter to pay Paul"

08-01-2011, 20:27	#27
jace Guest Posts: n/a	veg oil lol been covered on here before because theres no hope of getting them to drop fuel tax and then vat on that tax! and the people who created this mess are sat on back benches writing there memoirs and dreaming of after dinner speaches for city bankers! as for sending immagrants home watch that border force on one the freeview channels they raid areest illegals working in takeways etc then bail them with condition they dont do it again and report back to be deported ....it dont take a genuis to work out they aint gonna (turkys voting for christmass lol) when they do deport em charter a plane then there was 52 custody officers pls all the coaches etc one guy been paying tax for last ten yrs so how they not know he was here! countrys a joke but at least were not french !

08-01-2011, 20:30	#28
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	verg oil, home made bio fuels, why did they drope the tax? more ways to divide the oposition! and we all love having some one else to blame, 'it's them bloomin foreigners!' a nation of Alf Garnet clones The best way forward is to concentrate on one issue at a time, and the inability to do that is why we keep getting shafted

08-01-2011, 20:59	#30
jace Guest Posts: n/a	leave the eu should save few billions trouble is no one in the eu knows where the money is ,send all foreinors to afghanistan as mine detection specialists bung few students who think it funny to piss on monuments drunk/high on mater an paters allowence and best of all evict betty an phil the greek job done countrys back in the black ! simpleeze