Built in and built on oven?

jims-terrano · 28-11-2017, 19:42

Hi guys, obviously none vehicle related. Our oven has decided to pack up in the kitchen. As far as I knew it is what I describe as built in or integrated, it’s a separate unit to the hob and it’s built in to one of the cupboard carcasses. Been looking online for a replacement and apparently there are “Built In” and “Built On” ovens. Does anyone know the difference please.

Cheers

solarman216 · 28-11-2017, 20:07

never heard of built "on" ovens, where have you seen these, Rick

jims-terrano · 28-11-2017, 20:16

First website we looked at as they’ve been good in the past and clivvy works there “appliances direct” think it’s a .co.uk address.

Sorry guys think it maybe built under not on but you get the picture I’m sure. Feeling a bit under the weather so not at my best today.

jonela · 28-11-2017, 20:19

Back in my days of Kitchen fitting a built in oven was one that fitted in a unit under the worktop ,or in a tower unit. But you can get ones that just fit between the units with no carcass needed, like a slot in without the hob bit.

jims-terrano · 28-11-2017, 20:37

Ahh wonder if that’s built under?

jims-terrano · 29-11-2017, 11:54

According to my Mrs and she will know

Built Under are usually bigger and not at eye level.

macabethiel · 29-11-2017, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Hi guys, obviously none vehicle related. Our oven has decided to pack up in the kitchen. As far as I knew it is what I describe as built in or integrated, it’s a separate unit to the hob and it’s built in to one of the cupboard carcasses. Been looking online for a replacement and apparently there are “Built In” and “Built On” ovens. Does anyone know the difference please.

Cheers

Only experience I have had is when I fitted our oven away from from the hob. If you drop down the oven door you will usually find four screws that hold the unit in, two on either side though often fitters just use two screws.

With these removed the oven will pull out but the power cable might stop you removing it too far. I stood ours on a wheelie bin when I was fitting it as they are heavy. You can then check the actual fitting width, height and depth. These measurements will help you choose.
I think built On ovens are where you fit one with another smaller oven or a built in microwave. These have a finishing trim where the two meet. When I did mine I just moved the fixed carcass shelf by about 1/2". I then used a piece of black angle plasic to hide the joint are where the two unit met. The pucka fittings seem to be the preserve of specialist kitchen fitters not found in the likes of B&Q.

kitchenman · 29-11-2017, 17:18

Be careful when fitting these ovens, most of them only need a 13A supply so wiring them to a cooker point may result in a fire if any thing goes wrong.
RTFM to check this out

makeitfit · 30-11-2017, 02:22

Built in under is a single oven typically about 60cm sq. A decent volume these days too.
Built under is different as it's a "double" oven hanging under the hob between adjacent units. Typically 72cm tall. Piddly little ovens not big enough to dry soggy brake shoes in 🤣
Buy quality.

jims-terrano · 30-11-2017, 08:10

So this would be a Built Under double oven with the top being a grill as well.

So what sort of brand would you recommend?

Cheers

jims-terrano · 30-11-2017, 20:36

Wife went looking for a replacement oven today, I can’t believe the crap shops were giving her. One retailer who two of our members on here work for the salesman couldn’t work the computer system and wasn’t interested in my wife or what she wanted to purchase. Another shop with a big name that sounds very much like some spicy food only had two of the built under type but these stand on legs and don’t fit in a carcass. This is going to be a right royal pain in the bottom.

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 01-12-2017, 13:22

built in, is usually eye/waist level in a tall carcass.

built under, has feet, sits on floor and would typically be under the hob in the worktop

jims-terrano · 01-12-2017, 14:33

Well I can confirm that Bosch we have currently is held into a carcas with 4 screws. It also has no legs or feet just slides into the carcass.

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 01-12-2017, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitchenman

Be careful when fitting these ovens, most of them only need a 13A supply so wiring them to a cooker point may result in a fire if any thing goes wrong.
RTFM to check this out

maybe a single, but suspect a double will be 30A like this

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/househ...67298-pdt.html

right height to Jim

macabethiel · 01-12-2017, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Well I can confirm that Bosch we have currently is held into a carcas with 4 screws. It also has no legs or feet just slides into the carcass.

If the Bosch is in your price band I would go for another Bosch.

We have a Whirlpool Electric Fan Oven in our kitchen it has been trouble free since I fitted it in 2005,Clock Timer, Fan Assisted options with umpteen modes in stainless with double glass window. It was £500 with a Belling ? Gas Hob from B&Q.

My Brother has a very expensive Neff Induction Hob & Oven its had the Hob replaced twice first time under warranty.

28-11-2017, 19:42	#1
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Built in and built on oven? Hi guys, obviously none vehicle related. Our oven has decided to pack up in the kitchen. As far as I knew it is what I describe as built in or integrated, it’s a separate unit to the hob and it’s built in to one of the cupboard carcasses. Been looking online for a replacement and apparently there are “Built In” and “Built On” ovens. Does anyone know the difference please. Cheers

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28-11-2017, 20:16	#3
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	First website we looked at as they’ve been good in the past and clivvy works there “appliances direct” think it’s a .co.uk address. Sorry guys think it maybe built under not on but you get the picture I’m sure. Feeling a bit under the weather so not at my best today.

28-11-2017, 20:19	#4
jonela Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Chateaunef du Faou, France Vehicle: 2000 LWB SE+ Posts: 906	Back in my days of Kitchen fitting a built in oven was one that fitted in a unit under the worktop ,or in a tower unit. But you can get ones that just fit between the units with no carcass needed, like a slot in without the hob bit.

28-11-2017, 20:37	#5
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Ahh wonder if that’s built under?

29-11-2017, 11:54	#6
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	According to my Mrs and she will know Built Under are usually bigger and not at eye level.

29-11-2017, 17:18	#8
kitchenman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Essex Wescliff Vehicle: maverick 1994 2.7 TD Posts: 1,278	Be careful when fitting these ovens, most of them only need a 13A supply so wiring them to a cooker point may result in a fire if any thing goes wrong. RTFM to check this out

30-11-2017, 02:22	#9
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Built in under is a single oven typically about 60cm sq. A decent volume these days too. Built under is different as it's a "double" oven hanging under the hob between adjacent units. Typically 72cm tall. Piddly little ovens not big enough to dry soggy brake shoes in 🤣 Buy quality.

30-11-2017, 20:36	#11
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Wife went looking for a replacement oven today, I can’t believe the crap shops were giving her. One retailer who two of our members on here work for the salesman couldn’t work the computer system and wasn’t interested in my wife or what she wanted to purchase. Another shop with a big name that sounds very much like some spicy food only had two of the built under type but these stand on legs and don’t fit in a carcass. This is going to be a right royal pain in the bottom.

01-12-2017, 14:33	#13
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Well I can confirm that Bosch we have currently is held into a carcas with 4 screws. It also has no legs or feet just slides into the carcass.