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extreme-4x4 · 16-04-2009, 01:44

well the front extensions i already have just got to fit them. so they wont cost.

also if i use some towing aids, the rubber you fit in the coil springs this will harden the springs and give less upward travel of the wheel.
so it shouldn't reduce the opposite down movement . it will just go down sooner
the arb reduces both up and down.

but most important it will give less body roll and cost 25 quid to set it all up. and i can do it in a couple of hours.

unlike a body lift that will cost more and loads of hastle

anyway bluebull is the only one using 33's so far and all the body lifts etc and his new kit will cost over a grand in parts + plus getting someone to fit it. he's had to do that cos his existing 3" spring lift with 4" body lift dont work

i think its worth 25 quid to try this way

if we didn't try new things what fun would it be.

i wouldn't have extreme air or 35's on the truck

nejones · 16-04-2009, 09:36

Its true, we need someone to try out these mods and see how well they work or dont work.
The end result may not suit everyones needs but thats not the point is it.
Colins 'pioneering' these mods on Mavs and T2's can only be a good thing for the rest of us that want to modify or have modified our trucks.

extreme-4x4 · 16-04-2009, 10:10

well if it does work. it will certainly help prevent bottoming out in the ruts
a big tall truck is not the look a want and id prefer stiffer suspension

lacroupade · 16-04-2009, 10:26

viagra springs?

Deleted Member S · 16-04-2009, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

anyway bluebull is the only one using 33's so far and all the body lifts etc and his new kit will cost over a grand in parts + plus getting someone to fit it. he's had to do that cos his existing 3" spring lift with 4" body lift dont work

Bluebull has now got a 4" suspension lift & 3" body lift

my friend has a 3" suspension lift & 4" body lift running 33's & his bro has a 4" body lift & is also running 33's no probs

nejones · 16-04-2009, 14:10

Are these your mates Sweety
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

zippy656 · 16-04-2009, 14:32

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Originally Posted by nejones

Are these your mates Sweety
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

i got this guys email some place if any one would like to talk to him...

extreme-4x4 · 16-04-2009, 17:31

ok well been looking at the articulation today and im close , so im sure my way will work ...
extensions will sort the front as im hitting everything with an inch of damper left so 2 inch extensions will stop em hitting anything.

also good news i collect my new spring assisters in the morning 15.00 a pair
they fit from 26-39mm as my coil gaps are 30mm(at full articulation) they will limit the upward movement by 30mm a pair , but not downward... if needed i can go 1 pair top and 1 pair bottom if needed but i try just 1 to start.

the other trucks are nice but i want a more standard look. that was one reason for extreme air , it don't attract attention .
after all i dont see the point in getting pulled over for silly things

and as im often reminded about modded trucks and someone killing there family in a landy . the spring assisters are not really considered a mod as its a tool for towing

i also recon ill get less roll and a harder ride this way

but who knows i might be proved wrong . but then im only 15 quid down ay

nejones · 16-04-2009, 18:18

How are th front spacers gonna fit/work?

Terranosaurus · 16-04-2009, 18:29

Please tell me you're not using your shock absorbers as bump stops, because thats what it sounds like. Topping out your shocks is not a good idea and thats what fitting extenders will have you doing. The standard shock length at the front is the right length to allow full suspension travel without topping or bottoming out even without bump stops.

If you want to limit the travel fit larger bump stops, coil spring spacers will not limit articulation they will just stiffen up your suspension, but ultimately the compression will still be there in the rest of the spring.

IMHO what you are doing is perhaps going to produce a better handling road car but it will be crap off road, wagging wheels all over the place - no good having great big grippy tyres if they're not on the ground.

Deleted Member S · 16-04-2009, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by nejones

Are these your mates Sweety
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

Yes out with them in a couple of weeks in North Northumberland

zippy656 · 16-04-2009, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweety

Yes out with them in a couple of weeks in North Northumberland

tiz a small world...

but id hate to paint it

extreme-4x4 · 16-04-2009, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terranosaurus

Please tell me you're not using your shock absorbers as bump stops, because thats what it sounds like. Topping out your shocks is not a good idea and thats what fitting extenders will have you doing. The standard shock length at the front is the right length to allow full suspension travel without topping or bottoming out even without bump stops.

If you want to limit the travel fit larger bump stops, coil spring spacers will not limit articulation they will just stiffen up your suspension, but ultimately the compression will still be there in the rest of the spring.

IMHO what you are doing is perhaps going to produce a better handling road car but it will be crap off road, wagging wheels all over the place - no good having great big grippy tyres if they're not on the ground.

good point... the extensions are the 2" extensions that came with my Monroe gas shocks they just screw onto the top of the damper. not fitted as they were the same length as standard shocks , so im just fitting them as they can go either way with or without
"in my case with". but i will look at the bump stops i dont have any fitted now so it will help having some im sure
as for the coils.the towing place down the road advise me the the assisters kill any movement up in that 30mm that they are fitted to. and thats what im looking for

Terranosaurus · 16-04-2009, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

as for the coils.the towing place down the road advise me the the assisters kill any movement up in that 30mm that they are fitted to. and thats what im looking for

They will but the rest of the spring will still compress - sure they'll be a bit stiffer but they will still move.

Towing place - 4x4 experts??????

extreme-4x4 · 16-04-2009, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terranosaurus

They will but the rest of the spring will still compress - sure they'll be a bit stiffer but they will still move.

Towing place - 4x4 experts??????

thats right so the whole spring will still compress albeit stiffer except the bit thats blocked with 30mm of rubber that wont compress
so the wheel will have 30mm less travel upwards but the same down

id say the "towing place" down the road has more experience than me with setting cars/trucks up for dragging dirty great horse boxes etc this would i imagine setting up the suspension too, considering they do suspension parts/accessories.

16-04-2009, 01:44	#31
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	well the front extensions i already have just got to fit them. so they wont cost. also if i use some towing aids, the rubber you fit in the coil springs this will harden the springs and give less upward travel of the wheel. so it shouldn't reduce the opposite down movement . it will just go down sooner the arb reduces both up and down. but most important it will give less body roll and cost 25 quid to set it all up. and i can do it in a couple of hours. unlike a body lift that will cost more and loads of hastle anyway bluebull is the only one using 33's so far and all the body lifts etc and his new kit will cost over a grand in parts + plus getting someone to fit it. he's had to do that cos his existing 3" spring lift with 4" body lift dont work i think its worth 25 quid to try this way if we didn't try new things what fun would it be. i wouldn't have extreme air or 35's on the truck

16-04-2009, 09:36	#32
nejones Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: tipton Vehicle: T2 Posts: 338	Its true, we need someone to try out these mods and see how well they work or dont work. The end result may not suit everyones needs but thats not the point is it. Colins 'pioneering' these mods on Mavs and T2's can only be a good thing for the rest of us that want to modify or have modified our trucks.

16-04-2009, 10:10	#33
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	well if it does work. it will certainly help prevent bottoming out in the ruts a big tall truck is not the look a want and id prefer stiffer suspension

16-04-2009, 10:26	#34
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	viagra springs?

16-04-2009, 14:10	#36
nejones Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: tipton Vehicle: T2 Posts: 338	Are these your mates Sweety http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

16-04-2009, 17:31	#38
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	ok well been looking at the articulation today and im close , so im sure my way will work ... extensions will sort the front as im hitting everything with an inch of damper left so 2 inch extensions will stop em hitting anything. also good news i collect my new spring assisters in the morning 15.00 a pair they fit from 26-39mm as my coil gaps are 30mm(at full articulation) they will limit the upward movement by 30mm a pair , but not downward... if needed i can go 1 pair top and 1 pair bottom if needed but i try just 1 to start. the other trucks are nice but i want a more standard look. that was one reason for extreme air , it don't attract attention . after all i dont see the point in getting pulled over for silly things and as im often reminded about modded trucks and someone killing there family in a landy . the spring assisters are not really considered a mod as its a tool for towing i also recon ill get less roll and a harder ride this way but who knows i might be proved wrong . but then im only 15 quid down ay

16-04-2009, 18:18	#39
nejones Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: tipton Vehicle: T2 Posts: 338	How are th front spacers gonna fit/work?

16-04-2009, 18:29	#40
Terranosaurus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: YORKSHIRE Vehicle: 2001 2.7 TDi T2 SWB Posts: 4,077	Please tell me you're not using your shock absorbers as bump stops, because thats what it sounds like. Topping out your shocks is not a good idea and thats what fitting extenders will have you doing. The standard shock length at the front is the right length to allow full suspension travel without topping or bottoming out even without bump stops. If you want to limit the travel fit larger bump stops, coil spring spacers will not limit articulation they will just stiffen up your suspension, but ultimately the compression will still be there in the rest of the spring. IMHO what you are doing is perhaps going to produce a better handling road car but it will be crap off road, wagging wheels all over the place - no good having great big grippy tyres if they're not on the ground.