Maverick seems slow?

15-01-2009, 22:54

Just bought a Maverick 2.7TD and it appears to be rather low geared, slow acceleration and revs its nuts out to do 75mph, is this normal?

wanaron · 15-01-2009, 23:11

Hi, its all according to what you are used to driving/ comparing it to?
mavs and T2s are low geared, they were never built for speed, having said that should easily do well over 75. do yourself a big favour, join this club. all the help and advice you will ever need is here, and friendly lot too.
Wayne

wanaron · 15-01-2009, 23:13

having looked again at your post, are you a member?

Timbo_1975 · 15-01-2009, 23:14

If you have a satnav or other GPS, see what your actual road speed is. The speedometer in my T2 is wildly optimistic and shows 70mph at a true 62mph.

However, even though i have a TDi SWB and not a TD LWB, but even as standard it would hit 100mph on the clock reasonably happily (about 3800rpm, 90mph true speed)

Something about yours doesnt seem quite right...

Tim

15-01-2009, 23:15

Quote:

do yourself a big favour, join this club.

Will it change the gearing on the Maverick???

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 15-01-2009, 23:15

wouldnt say so, perhaps need a tune up.

my tdi is usually pretty peppy.

gearing wise, wide ratios, each gear has its own speed range
might sound obvious but built more like a truck than a car.
whilst motor torquey isnt as forgiving as a modern car if speed
drops in a higher gear, may feel like labouring, drop a cog or
2 and some throttle get turbo spinning and you're off again.

think at about 3k in fifth doing indicated 75. some say could
do with 6th gear, but then might to too high to use towing
or uphill etc.

sometimes if off turbo in first bit slow on take off, worse with
van on and going say uphill round a corner. then feels like
could use a crawler ratio. clearly 4wd lo not an option on
high grip surface. be known to slip clutch to help it get off.

15-01-2009, 23:18

I will try and borrow my mates Satnav.

Timbo_1975 · 15-01-2009, 23:21

Quote:

sometimes if off turbo in first bit slow on take off, worse with
van on and going say uphill round a corner. then feels like
could use a crawler ratio. clearly 4wd lo not an option on
high grip surface. be known to slip clutch to help it get off.

Yes they are quite dull off boost, and even on 'boost' it isnt much!

Tim..

zippy656 · 15-01-2009, 23:23

yep, clothahump join up. we are all helpfull. some even know what they are talking about.. not me though, im here just for fun and the banta..

rbrt, i had the caravan fully loaded behind a lorroy on a hill. he had to stop!!

I couldnt move at all. so did drop to 4WD Low.. tp get going again.. but wasnt to happy about it. MAF was to blame.. but i wasn't a member then.. so didnt know i even had one.

all well now tough. had to stop on that hill with the caravan since.. no trouble with at all even in 2WB

go on you know you want to join us fun loveing lot..

Zippy

Timbo_1975 · 15-01-2009, 23:29

A dying MAF, or even a slightly ill MAF really knackers power with the TDi.

It must reach a full 4.5v at anything over 2000rpm otherwise you will be short of alot of power. Even 4.3v will have a marked downward effect. If you have a boost gauge you can easily spot the lack of output from the maf.

I have found cleaning the sensing wires with a little squirt of carb cleaner every oil change (5k) really helps.

tim//

Deleted Member S · 15-01-2009, 23:32

Hi clothahump nice to see you've made it over m8

I would remove the banjo bolt from the fuel pump & have a look to see if yours has a mini filter fitted (you might have to fish around in the hole to find it)

tezzer · 15-01-2009, 23:36

just wondering, what size wheels and tyres are you running, as you know they can effect gearing, just a thought.

tezzer

15-01-2009, 23:36

Sounds like it might be a case of buying another Discovery then, I need something that will Tow well and actually accelerate well, from the tone here the Maverick is not the truck for doing any work.

wanaron · 15-01-2009, 23:49

why go for 2nd best?
your Mav should out perform a Disco, maybe just needs tweaking to get her right

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 15-01-2009, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by clothahump

Sounds like it might be a case of buying another Discovery then, I need something that will Tow well and actually accelerate well, from the tone here the Maverick is not the truck for doing any work.

now thats funny, about only thing disco has over t2/mav is full time 4wd so can drop
down or shunt in low box with out locking centre diff and attendant transmission wind
up.

otherwise inferior, assure you seen more r20s t2/mav tugging than all solihull lines
combined on caravan club rallies we attend.

15-01-2009, 22:54	#1
clothahump Guest Posts: n/a	Maverick seems slow? Just bought a Maverick 2.7TD and it appears to be rather low geared, slow acceleration and revs its nuts out to do 75mph, is this normal?

15-01-2009, 23:15	#6
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	wouldnt say so, perhaps need a tune up. my tdi is usually pretty peppy. gearing wise, wide ratios, each gear has its own speed range might sound obvious but built more like a truck than a car. whilst motor torquey isnt as forgiving as a modern car if speed drops in a higher gear, may feel like labouring, drop a cog or 2 and some throttle get turbo spinning and you're off again. think at about 3k in fifth doing indicated 75. some say could do with 6th gear, but then might to too high to use towing or uphill etc. sometimes if off turbo in first bit slow on take off, worse with van on and going say uphill round a corner. then feels like could use a crawler ratio. clearly 4wd lo not an option on high grip surface. be known to slip clutch to help it get off. __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

15-01-2009, 23:11	#2
wanaron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: staffordshire Vehicle: terrano Posts: 199	Hi, its all according to what you are used to driving/ comparing it to? mavs and T2s are low geared, they were never built for speed, having said that should easily do well over 75. do yourself a big favour, join this club. all the help and advice you will ever need is here, and friendly lot too. Wayne

15-01-2009, 23:13	#3
wanaron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: staffordshire Vehicle: terrano Posts: 199	having looked again at your post, are you a member?

15-01-2009, 23:14	#4
Timbo_1975 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S Shropshire Vehicle: Inbetween Terrano's ! Posts: 967	If you have a satnav or other GPS, see what your actual road speed is. The speedometer in my T2 is wildly optimistic and shows 70mph at a true 62mph. However, even though i have a TDi SWB and not a TD LWB, but even as standard it would hit 100mph on the clock reasonably happily (about 3800rpm, 90mph true speed) Something about yours doesnt seem quite right... Tim

15-01-2009, 23:18	#7
clothahump Guest Posts: n/a	I will try and borrow my mates Satnav.

15-01-2009, 23:23	#9
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	yep, clothahump join up. we are all helpfull. some even know what they are talking about.. not me though, im here just for fun and the banta.. rbrt, i had the caravan fully loaded behind a lorroy on a hill. he had to stop!! I couldnt move at all. so did drop to 4WD Low.. tp get going again.. but wasnt to happy about it. MAF was to blame.. but i wasn't a member then.. so didnt know i even had one. all well now tough. had to stop on that hill with the caravan since.. no trouble with at all even in 2WB go on you know you want to join us fun loveing lot.. Zippy

15-01-2009, 23:29	#10
Timbo_1975 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S Shropshire Vehicle: Inbetween Terrano's ! Posts: 967	A dying MAF, or even a slightly ill MAF really knackers power with the TDi. It must reach a full 4.5v at anything over 2000rpm otherwise you will be short of alot of power. Even 4.3v will have a marked downward effect. If you have a boost gauge you can easily spot the lack of output from the maf. I have found cleaning the sensing wires with a little squirt of carb cleaner every oil change (5k) really helps. tim//

15-01-2009, 23:32	#11
Deleted Member S Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,711	Hi clothahump nice to see you've made it over m8 I would remove the banjo bolt from the fuel pump & have a look to see if yours has a mini filter fitted (you might have to fish around in the hole to find it)

15-01-2009, 23:36	#12
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	just wondering, what size wheels and tyres are you running, as you know they can effect gearing, just a thought. tezzer

15-01-2009, 23:49	#14
wanaron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: staffordshire Vehicle: terrano Posts: 199	why go for 2nd best? your Mav should out perform a Disco, maybe just needs tweaking to get her right