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Old 12-09-2016, 14:57   #1
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Default Free virus protection for windows required.

We are with BT, I just tried to down load the free Mcaffee anti virus protection, and it doesn't want to run. We are running XP service pack 3 which "should be" compatible
I tried their tech download to check it, and that doesn't run either, several chunks of programs missing.

So if any one knows of any free one, I would be grateful.

I run Malwarebytes, and spybot on occassions, but need something to use that checks the computer more often, so this might be causing a clash.

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Old 12-09-2016, 15:05   #2
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We're all Windows 10 now and run the free version of Avast.
I didn't think xp is supported any longer?
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Old 12-09-2016, 15:22   #3
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STOP PRESS

having run malware bytes and re booted, it has now started to load Mcafee, so we'll see how this goes.

I'd still like the free software, should all this go pear shaped though lol

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Old 12-09-2016, 15:27   #4
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I'd get off that Operating System as there are loads and loads of exploits that have been found since 2014 that haven't been patched and Anti-Virus won't protect you from, I hope you don't use it for banking etc

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/Wind...-of-xp-support
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Default Trusteer Endpoint Protection & XP

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I'd get off that Operating System as there are loads and loads of exploits that have been found since 2014 that haven't been patched and Anti-Virus won't protect you from, I hope you don't use it for banking etc

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/Wind...-of-xp-support
I would have thought you should be OK if you run the Banks Trusteer Endpoint Protection programme for Banking with XP.
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Old 12-09-2016, 17:26   #6
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I would have thought you should be OK if you run the Banks Trusteer Endpoint Protection programme for Banking with XP.
Use at your own risk but I certainly wouldn't be banking on XP anymore

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I use, and have used for over 10 years, Norton Internet Security.

Constantly updates, constantly scans, everything that is downloaded is scanned, every e-mail is scanned.

I am a little wary of free software, the risk is that people only use the free version, when if you spend a little money, you get everything covered not just the basic stuff.

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I don't believe in internet banking, nothing is connected via emails either, when I use PayPal, it is linked to a seperate bank account with limited funds, when there is a large purchase pending, we transfer funds into it.

Interesting about the XP loop holes, in reality, we don't really need the XP computer on the internet, as we don't need to transfer attachments from ipad to print, now we have a WiFi printer.

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That's all very well, but even using the internet to use this forum can open a "window" to hackers, viruses, and trojan horse viruses with an inadequately protected system.

The only way to completely have a risk free computer is to literally have no connections to the outside world, hence the need for comprehensive security.

Sadly the likes of Microshaft, and Apple are more interested in shoving out the next money grabbing piece of software rather than making a version that is secure.

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avast.

lot of atms and store tills use xp still
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avast.

lot of atms and store tills use xp still
I hate being pushed into a corner to have to upgrade any product by the manufacturer, to get the latest version all the time.
I look after things and keep them for years.
My Mav is a classic example.

A lexmark printer I replaced recently, which still works, ( keep for rough work now) but is not WiFi must be 15 years old. The software logged every cartridge, and knew if it was reused even years later. Refilling was virtually impossible, but I found a few hacks on the internet, and that sorted that.

Modern boilers are the same, once you buy a combi, you start a replacement program every 8 years.

I wonder now about these modern houses, timber frame, very efficient, but if they start to need outside maintenance, like a replacement tile or two, by the time it shows on the inside, the structure is compromised.

In the USA, timber framed houses, start at a high price, and depreciate over years, reflecting that they will need replacing after maybe 70-80 years. Will the UK houses follow this trend when people realise this, but at the moment, their value is increasing year on year.

I sound like a grumpy old git lol, but I hate waste, I recycle as much as I can, why waste resources all the time.

If goods lasted for ever, whether it be cars, washing machines, fridges etc, then once everybody has one, they will go out of business eventually, so they have to design and build in a life expectancy.
What really "pi****s" me off, are white goods sent to the tip, just because the colour didn't match their current kitchen, or they have to have the latest product, like a fridge connected to the internet, that knows how much butter you have left and reorders it...

Anyhow, back on topic, thanks guys for all the suggestions, regarding the virus protection, it's topics like this that help us to keep our forum a family group.
We talk about things that affect our current lives as well as our cars.
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I know what you mean about recycling and wasteful.

In the past I've tried to sell on good quality items, no-ones interested. If it's not new it's no good.

We've horses at home, and this generates a bit more general waste than Cherwell District Council is prepared to remove on a fortnightly basis. So monthly trips to the local tip are required.

There are always really nice good bicycles in the metal skip, I'm guessing they are thrown because they're not the latest/flash'ist, white goods that are only a year or two old. We live in a very wasteful society where new/flash is the must have.

I have a engineer friend who works for Jaguar/Land Rover, he tells me the key phrase is "built in obsolescence". 100,000 miles is the limit. If you have any doubts speak to your local mechanic and ask him how long you should keep your car!

On the subject of PC's, it's just the same. Operating systems and software is just the same. If you really want to hang on to your XP machine, I really can't stress how much you need a really comprehensive anti-virus plan to compensate for the operating system obsolescence.

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Today, I wound up my win 7 starter, acer net book, rarely used since I had the ipad, so might retire the Xp computer to off line working, and use the acer, which has virus protection, and windows updates.

Damn technology...

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Old 14-09-2016, 22:25   #14
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Used to work in a computer repair shop for a little while and whenever we formatted a pc we would stick Avast on as a matter of course.

I've always used it since and have never had any problems. If it doesn't run with xp I'd be surprised, but then technology moves a lot faster than me these days
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As a now ex repairer of ATM's I can assure you that quite a lot of them are still running windows xp, particularly the hole in the wall type machines from NCR and Wincor-Nixdorf.
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