manual pump conversion on late t2

Madmark · 15-02-2016, 23:42

I'm really gonna look into this with the intension of actually doing it if I find the right pump

Wd21 pump and make up pedal to take cable ?

I realise speedo etc wont work as all through ecu

What else is needed to be considered eg will wd21 pump work to start with

solarman216 · 15-02-2016, 23:52

do not think it will work, ecu will not get any feedback from pump so will say eff off, Rick

Madmark · 16-02-2016, 08:27

But those pumps dont have ecu do they? Thats the point I wanna ditch all ecu crap.

RJL Services · 16-02-2016, 09:20

should have a cable pedal lying around off a early terrano type if any use let me know and ill dig it out must be in a box somewhere early terrano were just basic mechainical pumps and would fit easier

panelbeater · 16-02-2016, 09:57

i think ricks saying the ecu in t2 you will be fitting old pump into wont like it not old pump as t2 has ecu that does a lot.

Fez_uk · 16-02-2016, 10:11

I doubt you actually connect the ecu to the pump, will be all mechanical with a old fashioned stop solenoid that can be activated by 12v.

It might throw up some odd errors but the car would still run.

Madmark · 16-02-2016, 10:47

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Originally Posted by RJL Services

should have a cable pedal lying around off a early terrano type if any use let me know and ill dig it out must be in a box somewhere early terrano were just basic mechainical pumps and would fit easier

What would ya want for pedal as wanna start collecting stuff cheers bud

Madmark · 16-02-2016, 10:49

I will literally rip out all engine wiring and do basic set up start stop etc as just fed up with all ecu rubbish I know speed and revs etc will all need sorting but at worst ill use sat nave etc untill I sort that sort of stuff

RJL Services · 16-02-2016, 11:43

at yard on thursday will locate and pm you mate

Madmark · 16-02-2016, 12:44

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Originally Posted by RJL Services

at yard on thursday will locate and pm you mate

Thanks bud

Barrbeast · 16-02-2016, 14:29

Don't see why it can't be done, they do it on the Y61 Trols when converting to the 4.2 engine. Might need looking at by an auto sparky though if the ecu doesn't behave

Madmark · 16-02-2016, 15:05

There won't be an ecu as not needed if running mechanical cable pump. Same as 200tdi defender no ecu just on off and throttle

Barrbeast · 16-02-2016, 19:01

Your ecu does more than just work the fuel pump bud, there's the MAF etc as well.

Fez_uk · 16-02-2016, 19:42

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Originally Posted by Barrbeast

Your ecu does more than just work the fuel pump bud, there's the MAF etc as well.

I doubt the maf will be needed

Madmark · 16-02-2016, 20:21

You guys ain't getting this

With manual pump its just the pump that's needed no ecu no maff the pump is set to right air to fuel no crank sensor. Just warm the glow plugs and go! Early basic diesels

15-02-2016, 23:42	#1
Madmark Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Dorset Vehicle: highly modded Terrano 2 Posts: 1,088	manual pump conversion on late t2 I'm really gonna look into this with the intension of actually doing it if I find the right pump Wd21 pump and make up pedal to take cable ? I realise speedo etc wont work as all through ecu What else is needed to be considered eg will wd21 pump work to start with

15-02-2016, 23:52	#2
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	do not think it will work, ecu will not get any feedback from pump so will say eff off, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

16-02-2016, 08:27	#3
Madmark Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Dorset Vehicle: highly modded Terrano 2 Posts: 1,088	But those pumps dont have ecu do they? Thats the point I wanna ditch all ecu crap.

16-02-2016, 09:20	#4
RJL Services Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: southwest gloucester Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 2003 Posts: 615	should have a cable pedal lying around off a early terrano type if any use let me know and ill dig it out must be in a box somewhere early terrano were just basic mechainical pumps and would fit easier

16-02-2016, 09:57	#5
panelbeater Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: clacton on sea essex Vehicle: nissan terrano 2 2.7 tdi Posts: 1,639	i think ricks saying the ecu in t2 you will be fitting old pump into wont like it not old pump as t2 has ecu that does a lot.

16-02-2016, 10:11	#6
Fez_uk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mid-Wales Vehicle: Maverick 2.7 - Patrol 4.2 Posts: 5,645	I doubt you actually connect the ecu to the pump, will be all mechanical with a old fashioned stop solenoid that can be activated by 12v. It might throw up some odd errors but the car would still run.

16-02-2016, 10:49	#8
Madmark Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Dorset Vehicle: highly modded Terrano 2 Posts: 1,088	I will literally rip out all engine wiring and do basic set up start stop etc as just fed up with all ecu rubbish I know speed and revs etc will all need sorting but at worst ill use sat nave etc untill I sort that sort of stuff

16-02-2016, 11:43	#9
RJL Services Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: southwest gloucester Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 2.7 2003 Posts: 615	at yard on thursday will locate and pm you mate

16-02-2016, 14:29	#11
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	Don't see why it can't be done, they do it on the Y61 Trols when converting to the 4.2 engine. Might need looking at by an auto sparky though if the ecu doesn't behave

16-02-2016, 15:05	#12
Madmark Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Dorset Vehicle: highly modded Terrano 2 Posts: 1,088	There won't be an ecu as not needed if running mechanical cable pump. Same as 200tdi defender no ecu just on off and throttle

16-02-2016, 19:01	#13
Barrbeast Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: 1990 4.2 SWB Safari Posts: 2,615	Your ecu does more than just work the fuel pump bud, there's the MAF etc as well.

16-02-2016, 20:21	#15
Madmark Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Dorset Vehicle: highly modded Terrano 2 Posts: 1,088	You guys ain't getting this With manual pump its just the pump that's needed no ecu no maff the pump is set to right air to fuel no crank sensor. Just warm the glow plugs and go! Early basic diesels