In England since 5th Oct we have to pay 5p per carrier bag - Page 2

Daemo · 11-10-2015, 09:57

I always use the self service tills until now, they have taken the bags away and you have to ask someone for them and guess what no one around to ask or it takes them ages to go and get one so I may aswell que... That's progress for ya.
My wife is anal about not paying for bags but I don't care it's only 5 or 10p unless it's a planed shopping trip then we take bags.

macabethiel · 11-10-2015, 10:28

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Originally Posted by rustic

If we happen to find ourselves buying a bag, then it's worth asking them which charity the money is going to, if they don't know, then get them to ask a supervisor, after all, it's your money.

Rustic

Hope I am not behind you in the queue when you ask ! lol

macabethiel · 11-10-2015, 10:32

We go shopping with at least 20 bags in the back of the Jeep some made of plastic some woven fabric etc.

We get to the checkout and realise we are in my car with no bags so we buy some more.

Paultrol · 11-10-2015, 12:01

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Originally Posted by macabethiel

Hope I am not behind you in the queue when you ask ! lol

I thought the same

Why pay 5p for a bag, you get the whole trolley for a £1 at Aldi.

elty001 · 11-10-2015, 13:22

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Originally Posted by Paultrol

I thought the same

Why pay 5p for a bag, you get the whole trolley for a £1 at Aldi.

That's what we do.just re pack the trolley,wheel it out to car and load the boot.
Job done

Leaving the trolley behind though

johnb5177 · 11-10-2015, 13:27

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Originally Posted by elty001

That's what we do.just re pack the trolley,wheel it out to car and load the boot.
Job done

Always have bags in the cars, and do just this, do not buy the thin checkout bags.

I think I would like to see a very large, plainly written notice at the entrance and a slightly smaller one at the checkout of all stores charging for these bags, as to exactly what charities will directly benefit from this 5p charge. I don't think it's too much to ask. If they will not or cannot, then they should expect to be criticized and questioned heavily and publically.......

rustic · 11-10-2015, 16:44

When Safeway ( now Morrisons) had the Green boxes, you bought say half a dozen green boxes, load then into a special trolley, take a bar code scanner, scan hopefully ALL the goods you put in the green boxes, and pay on the way out.
You put what you needed in each box, one for the freezer, one for the fridge, one for the bathroom, one for the tins cupboard, one for the wine cellar.
When you got home the right things in the right room, and you've only handled them once.
Brilliant..

However... they soon stopped that as some high priced goods accidentally were placed into the trolley, by persons unknown, or the quantity was wrong, so they were relying on technology, and people being honest.

We still have the green boxes... power tools in three, stuff for boat in two, others in shed with plumbing bits in, several in the loft with electrical plugs, sockets etc.Very tough boxes that stack, and if I recall, only a pound at the time.
What they should have done, is weigh the full trolley, allowing for how many green boxes are on board... easy.
Rustic

makeitfit · 11-10-2015, 20:29

The 5p charge does not have to be given to charity at all.There's no legislation for that. However the company concerned does have to show in their annual returns what happened to those 5p charges. Most companies do donate to charity but not all :/
Waste in bins , why? Shouldn't be any waste

Recycling stuff is all clean.
The only mucky stuff we have is a bit of food waste before it goes out to the compost. No need for bags there either. We use old cereal boxes or just the food waste bucket. If it's the cereal packet then the food and that go in the compost, simples

macabethiel · 12-10-2015, 08:38

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

Waste in bins , why? Shouldn't be any waste

Recycling stuff is all clean.
The only mucky stuff we have is a bit of food waste before it goes out to the compost. No need for bags there either. We use old cereal boxes or just the food waste bucket. If it's the cereal packet then the food and that go in the compost, simples

I do not generate any real compost as I have no lawn and most of the garden is slabbed or pond etc. Hard to recycle Polystyrene packing etc.

My garden flowers are in plant pots and a composter would take up more space than my 3 jocking wheelie bins !
Luckily for food stuffs we have a waste disposal unit in the sink that is great except when we manage to block it up by abusing it. lol

Terrano Steve · 12-10-2015, 09:34

I think the idea is that if we are made aware that we are paying for a bag that we won't use as many but lets face it we were paying for the bag before built in to the cost of the groceries. Now we are just paying twice.
As for being conned by super markets it's something that they are certainly good at.

makeitfit · 12-10-2015, 11:09

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Originally Posted by macabethiel

I do not generate any real compost as I have no lawn and most of the garden is slabbed or pond etc. Hard to recycle Polystyrene packing etc.

My garden flowers are in plant pots and a composter would take up more space than my 3 jocking wheelie bins !
Luckily for food stuffs we have a waste disposal unit in the sink that is great except when we manage to block it up by abusing it. lol

It certainly does take space that's for sure

Polystyrene is indeed a challenge ! I'm lucky here as I have a friend who supplies domestic appliances. They create mountains of the stuff. So he's invested in a polystyrene shredder . It's awesome (and expensive, but cheaper in the long run than tipping fees). I now have a bean bag project using old sails and recycled p/s filler (not fire rated but then it's on the beach

)
I fit kitchens for my income and detest waste disposers . I know they're great for you but then they also perpetuate the whole insular attitude we have for recycling in general. They also bung up your drain pipes eeuuuuw

The real point ofcourse is that we ARE discussing environment et all thanks to England at last doing the 5p thing.

Any road up, do what you can and complain about the rest

Peace and light

Fez_uk · 12-10-2015, 11:24

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

I've never paid 5p for a plastic bag as far as I can remember.
Neither do I use a plastic liner in my bin. Why would you need one ? There should be nothing in there to make the plastic bin dirty

We recycle virtually everthing. The only mucky stuff is a bit of food waste and that goes in the compost bin. Again no liner

I guess it's all to do with changing the attitudes of feckwits who think it's fine to lob out their bloody MacDonalds wrappers etc as soon as they've carbed up

We have bins on the beach that twat grockles still can't work out what they're fookin' for

Exactly, Stop moaning england!

Lazy-Ferret · 12-10-2015, 15:57

Having spent a bit of time in Wales on and off, we had already got into the habit of having our own bags, so carried on when at home.

I am glad we have followed Wales as this makes the cashier think. The number of times we have had stuff put in bags before we could stop them, often when we are even holding the bag ready to use.

The lady in Pets at Home yesterday said she had sold 2 bags, where as they normally go through 200 plus a day.

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Fez_uk · 14-10-2015, 11:37

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Originally Posted by macabethiel

I do not generate any real compost as I have no lawn and most of the garden is slabbed or pond etc. Hard to recycle Polystyrene packing etc.

My garden flowers are in plant pots and a composter would take up more space than my 3 jocking wheelie bins !
Luckily for food stuffs we have a waste disposal unit in the sink that is great except when we manage to block it up by abusing it. lol

Ceredigion council take and recycle polystyrene and they away the compost material including meat and bones etc.

emjaybee · 14-10-2015, 13:05

Interesting stuff, I see on the news today that a Tesco store had 1/3 of it's baskets nicked in a week because people wouldn't pay for bags. It has now put security tags on it's remaining baskets. Another story was of another (unnamed ) supermarket putting security tags on its CARRIER bags for the same reason.

I myself have just yesterday been online and ordered 200 supermarket style bags as we can find no other suitable bags for clearing out our two cat litter trays on a daily basis. If anyone has any ideas on THAT problem then I'm all ears.

11-10-2015, 10:32	#18
macabethiel Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Derby Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0 Posts: 4,416	Change of routine needed. We go shopping with at least 20 bags in the back of the Jeep some made of plastic some woven fabric etc. We get to the checkout and realise we are in my car with no bags so we buy some more.

11-10-2015, 16:44	#22
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	When Safeway ( now Morrisons) had the Green boxes, you bought say half a dozen green boxes, load then into a special trolley, take a bar code scanner, scan hopefully ALL the goods you put in the green boxes, and pay on the way out. You put what you needed in each box, one for the freezer, one for the fridge, one for the bathroom, one for the tins cupboard, one for the wine cellar. When you got home the right things in the right room, and you've only handled them once. Brilliant.. However... they soon stopped that as some high priced goods accidentally were placed into the trolley, by persons unknown, or the quantity was wrong, so they were relying on technology, and people being honest. We still have the green boxes... power tools in three, stuff for boat in two, others in shed with plumbing bits in, several in the loft with electrical plugs, sockets etc.Very tough boxes that stack, and if I recall, only a pound at the time. What they should have done, is weigh the full trolley, allowing for how many green boxes are on board... easy. Rustic __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

11-10-2015, 09:57	#16
Daemo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northamptonshire Vehicle: Patrol y61, safari y60. Posts: 466	I always use the self service tills until now, they have taken the bags away and you have to ask someone for them and guess what no one around to ask or it takes them ages to go and get one so I may aswell que... That's progress for ya. My wife is anal about not paying for bags but I don't care it's only 5 or 10p unless it's a planed shopping trip then we take bags.

11-10-2015, 20:29	#23
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	The 5p charge does not have to be given to charity at all.There's no legislation for that. However the company concerned does have to show in their annual returns what happened to those 5p charges. Most companies do donate to charity but not all :/ Waste in bins , why? Shouldn't be any waste Recycling stuff is all clean. The only mucky stuff we have is a bit of food waste before it goes out to the compost. No need for bags there either. We use old cereal boxes or just the food waste bucket. If it's the cereal packet then the food and that go in the compost, simples

12-10-2015, 09:34	#25
Terrano Steve Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: South west Vehicle: Terrano Posts: 522	I think the idea is that if we are made aware that we are paying for a bag that we won't use as many but lets face it we were paying for the bag before built in to the cost of the groceries. Now we are just paying twice. As for being conned by super markets it's something that they are certainly good at.

12-10-2015, 15:57	#28
Lazy-Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sevenoaks, Kent Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDi SE Touring Posts: 5,221	Having spent a bit of time in Wales on and off, we had already got into the habit of having our own bags, so carried on when at home. I am glad we have followed Wales as this makes the cashier think. The number of times we have had stuff put in bags before we could stop them, often when we are even holding the bag ready to use. The lady in Pets at Home yesterday said she had sold 2 bags, where as they normally go through 200 plus a day. Sent from my GT-I8160 using Tapatalk

14-10-2015, 13:05	#30
emjaybee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oxfordshire Vehicle: 3.0Di SVE '05 5 door. Posts: 1,536	Interesting stuff, I see on the news today that a Tesco store had 1/3 of it's baskets nicked in a week because people wouldn't pay for bags. It has now put security tags on it's remaining baskets. Another story was of another (unnamed ) supermarket putting security tags on its CARRIER bags for the same reason. I myself have just yesterday been online and ordered 200 supermarket style bags as we can find no other suitable bags for clearing out our two cat litter trays on a daily basis. If anyone has any ideas on THAT problem then I'm all ears.