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Old 05-02-2015, 09:50   #1
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Hello I am a new member and a proud owner of a 2002 SVE 3.0, i love it! i do however have some newbie questions..please forgive me if this is blatantly obvious....both my self and my wife have almost spun the car whilst driving, both times greasy roads but nothing to bad and no faster than 20mph , both turning right when the back has spun out!..so please correct me if i am wrong that the car is in front 2 wheel drive not rear as normal driving ? if so i can put it in 4 x 4 mode permanently without having any detrimental effect? because i have just come from a land rover disco that was always in 4 x 4 mode, this cant be right spinning out like that can it? also what tyre pressures would you recommend?
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Old 05-02-2015, 09:56   #2
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welcome,they are heavy beasts and will not corner like a car.i cant comment on the 4x4 side but others will.
tyres play a big part,what type are they,road all terrain mud etc.
if you pay the £10 to join it opens up a whole lot more.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:15   #3
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Welcome bud!

First off, never put your truck in 4wd unless you're on a loose/slippy surface as there's no centre diff like in a disco so the wheels need to be able to slip slightly as both axles will be trying to turn at the same speed. Run 4wd on a hard non slip surface like tarmac and you'll cause transmission wind up and knacker something (probably expensive).

All these trucks drive from the rear in 2wd and that particularly coupled with the rear limited slip diff can cause the back end to spin out a little when it's greasy. I would try not to give her too much beans when turning sharp until you've gut used to how she handles.

I've got a Trol myself (full locking diff instead of a lsd) so one of the Terrano owners will be better able to advise on its tail happy characteristics
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:19   #4
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Hello.

First thing is NEVER drive the car in 4 wheel drive unless you are driving on a slippery surface, like snow, mud or wet grass, you'll get transmission wind up.


The Terrano is REAR wheel drive normally, when put in 4 wheel drive it brings the front wheels into action.

Regarding spinning out when turning, a little less right foot will help especially in damp conditions.
But I would look into getting the rear differential oil changed, and use ONLY "LSD oil like this: http://www.commaoil.com/passenger-ve...ducts/view/195
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:22   #5
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Back end always comes round if you swing it on bends or ice. Don't run in permanant 4 wheel drive it will wind up transmission and cause damage. Read the instructions on the drivers sun visor. Welcome to the forum.
You may need to replace the diff oil, may sure you have the correct one as usually its a limited slip oil. David
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:24   #6
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As said above take note, I would also change the rear oil in the diff as the previous owner could of put non LSD oil in making the limited slip tighter.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:35   #7
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So does it only spin out when turning "right "?
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:56   #8
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I had exactly the same issues when I got my Terrano. It tried to bite it's own back a few times on wet roundabouts, at very low speeds.

Simple solution: change the rear diff oil, make sure you use proper LSD oil... Plenty of threads on that here, I used what the local motor factor had in stock (Kroon Oil, I think, a Dutch brand).
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:06   #9
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The solution has already been given.

So re the rear diff, change the rear diff oil ASAP fill with Coma LSD oil.

If a previous owner had the wrong oil, how will you know... then run with this new oil for a couple of months, say 500 miles, and then drain again and refill with the right LSD oil.

You should notice a vast improvement.
Also I have always advised having the same type of tyre, with the same tread depth and pressures on the rear axle, then the rear diff isn't working hard, even on a straight road.
When changing the rear diff oil, you don't need a ramp, or jacks, plenty of room, use a 1/2" socket set square end, it fits... undo the filler on the rear first, otherwise if it is siezed... then you can't replace the oil...
Older diffs take 2.8 litres of LSD Oil, later pressed steel diffs take about half this.

When the oil comes out, it could look thick and grey, ( or another colour... lol) mine did... this contamination is from the friction material of the rear diff doing it's work and is perfectly normal.

Kicking out on wet roads.. this simple change will improve it. Price is around £25 to do the change...
£15 for the oil... and £10 to join this club. lol... You will save that £10 many times over, and start to fix problems you never knew you had.
Oh... welcome to the best club for the Terrano and Maverick.
We collectively know more than all the Nissan dealers put together, in my opinion of course...
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:13   #10
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So does it only spin out when turning "right "?
At a guess, you turn right for longer, and usually faster eg on roundabouts, generally left turns are approx 90 degrees, and you are generally going slower.

I would guess you would have a similar problem if your main driving was in France or Spain, where the problem would be from turning left .

This could be the logical conclusion.
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:34   #11
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Welcome aboard and no need for me to add to the above posts other than get your oils changed (gearbox, diffs, transfer box and engine) just to be sure.

Nice motors, think 3litre is better mpg too.

Think the above advice alone is worth paying a tenner membership
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:50   #12
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cheers for the reply and advice! really appreciate it..my guess it was rear wheel driven due to the nature of the slide! and yes its a lot smoother and more powerful than my discovery 2.5 i am really impressed with it so far, and will be towing a horse box this weekend with it so see how i get on! and yep i will be joining thanks again
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Old 05-02-2015, 13:32   #13
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cheers for the reply and advice! really appreciate it..my guess it was rear wheel driven due to the nature of the slide! and yes its a lot smoother and more powerful than my discovery 2.5 i am really impressed with it so far, and will be towing a horse box this weekend with it so see how i get on! and yep i will be joining thanks again
Be careful, either tyres are goosed completely, or suspect wrong oil in the rear differential as mentioned, this can cause a juddering of rear wheels and turning round corners can be interesting...

Last thin you want is a horsebox spinning out!

all of us pretty much do rear diff oil as a good measure when we first get the truck
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Old 05-02-2015, 16:23   #14
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2002 3.0l will be the new "Dacia Era" diff, I don't know the technical numbers, I'm sure RayF provided them before

All I know is, it takes less oil than the old ones
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Of the two different types of rear diff's fitted, the oil capacity is 1.3 Litres for the C200, and 2.8 litres for the H233B.

The C200 is built in the axle casing with a rear access cover and the H233 is the more conventional style, where the diff is fitted to the front of the axle housing.
Both are LSD.

I believe it is post 2002 vehicles that are more likely to have the C200 diff, as my 3.0L is on a 52 plate and has the larger H233B fitted.
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