Go Back   :::.Nissan 4x4 Owners Club.::: > General > The Clubs Virtual Pub

The Clubs Virtual Pub For general chat, so come on in and pull up a chair.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 16-09-2014, 23:24   #1
AlexD333
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Uk
Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI
Posts: 7,847
Default Firearms stuff

So I've been doing some research and how best to approach all of this given my situation.

I want to join the bedfordshire rifle association - membership is 200 quid
I want to apply for a firearms license and poss shotgun too.
I need to buy a gun safe/cabinet (once we move to our new un-chosen home)
I want to buy a rifle and a legal "handgun" (with arm ect)

There is also a 3 month probationary period with the club where they make sure you are not a maniac

Does anyone have any info on how they proceeded and whats best to do first?

I imagine owning my own gun can be the last on the list as the association had guns to use on site.

Experiences anyone?
AlexD333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-09-2014, 23:27   #2
Paff
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Just north of Ipswich, Suffolk
Vehicle: Terrano II 2.7 SE+ Auto
Posts: 1,094
Default

Alex, you must have too much money to waste mate
Paff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-09-2014, 23:33   #3
mooseloose
Junior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Merseyside
Posts: 19
Default

Are you sure about the 'legal' handgun bit?
When I was shooting clays I asked the local store about any ranges that shoot them, there answer was they are all banned with the exception of historic and muzzle loaded.

There was a huge ban on Brocock air pistols due to the ease in which they could be converted to shoot centerfire rounds. Lovely air pistols, shame they were banned!

When the FLO comes round for a visit, ask him about the handgun situation. I may be wrong, but pretty sure all handguns are banned (with exceptions...).
mooseloose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-09-2014, 23:33   #4
AlexD333
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Uk
Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI
Posts: 7,847
Default

Not atall dude, just a hobby I want to pursue

If I had the money I would have paid for all, licenses, membership n guns
AlexD333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-09-2014, 23:34   #5
AlexD333
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Uk
Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI
Posts: 7,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mooseloose View Post
Are you sure about the 'legal' handgun bit?
When I was shooting clays I asked the local store about any ranges that shoot them, there answer was they are all banned with the exception of historic and muzzle loaded.

There was a huge ban on Brocock air pistols due to the ease in which they could be converted to shoot centerfire rounds. Lovely air pistols, shame they were banned!

When the FLO comes round for a visit, ask him about the handgun situation. I may be wrong, but pretty sure all handguns are banned (with exceptions...).
They get these extensions welded onto the back of them, thus sort of declassifying them as a handgun and turning em into a rifle, I believe.


I wont be buying any guns until I have spoken with the club and gotten my license anyway

Edit - I think this means they cant be concealed
AlexD333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-09-2014, 23:40   #6
mooseloose
Junior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Merseyside
Posts: 19
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexD333 View Post
They get these extensions welded onto the back of them, thus sort of declassifying them as a handgun and turning em into a rifle, I believe.


I wont be buying any guns until I have spoken with the club and gotten my license anyway

Edit - I think this means they cant be concealed
Ahhh, that makes more sense then! 30cm rule?

http://www.gunstar.co.uk/

Best place to look! Some nice flintlocks on there too!

Would love to get an air rifle again, but with my current student accommodation, I may have the local ARU visiting me!

Are you thinking rimfire or centrefire?
mooseloose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 06:34   #7
AlexD333
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Uk
Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI
Posts: 7,847
Default

Ahh I had no idea about center fire, just read a small article. I will certainly look into this as reloading seems like good fun, but I believed you couldnt for 22s..
AlexD333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 09:12   #8
terrano bob
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: north west
Vehicle: nissan terrano 2 2.7tdi
Posts: 1,015
Default

talk to a gun club or police
terrano bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 11:59   #9
AlexD333
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Uk
Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI
Posts: 7,847
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by terrano bob View Post
talk to a gun club or police
Cheers for the helpful advise

Its on my to do list, Just wanted to speak to anyone here who might have had past dealings.
AlexD333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 15:44   #10
macabethiel
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Derby
Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0
Posts: 4,416
Exclamation Shotgun & Firearms

You wil need a Shotgun Certificate or Permit for a Shotgun. Initial Fee £50 for 5 years and then £40 on renewal.
Stringent rules on storage at your home in approved storage safe or cabinets.
Not very difficult to obtain in reality

If you have a Criminal Record or history of mental illness you are very unlikely to be granted one.

Firearms Licence needed to keep S1 Firearm same prices nas Shotgun Permit (it does not cover you for a Shotgun for both you need both).
Even harder to obtain you will need shooting land rights or Club Membership and I am pretty sure you will not find it easy to be able to keep gun at home only on Shooting Club Premises.

You will need a good reason and the background checks are higher grade than for a Shotgun.
Effectively anyone can be granted a Shotgun Permit provided of sound mind et etc.
Section 1 Firearm you need to prove a case for being granted a Certificate and that you are a fit and proper person.
macabethiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 18:24   #11
firebobby
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: South Bucks
Vehicle: Terrano 3.0 SVE 2005
Posts: 3,499
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by macabethiel View Post
You wil need a Shotgun Certificate or Permit for a Shotgun. Initial Fee £50 for 5 years and then £40 on renewal.
Stringent rules on storage at your home in approved storage safe or cabinets.
Not very difficult to obtain in reality

If you have a Criminal Record or history of mental illness you are very unlikely to be granted one.
I know a few people who have criminal records and hold shot gun certificates and I don't have a safe or cabinet for shotgun, I have a cable that's secured to the wall.
firebobby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 19:24   #12
macabethiel
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Derby
Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0
Posts: 4,416
Wink Shotgun Certificate / Permits

Quote:
Originally Posted by firebobby View Post
I know a few people who have criminal records and hold shot gun certificates and I don't have a safe or cabinet for shotgun, I have a cable that's secured to the wall.
If the conviction is spent or not for an offence of violence or one such as Burglary many forces will grant a shotgun certificate as they know on appeal it will probably be granted and they do not want to pay the Court Costs if they loose.

There are some less stringent rules for Shotguns by some Police Forces a lot depends on your postcode and area and local area crime rate.

When I was a serving officer we moved from local PC's carrying out suitability enquries to dedicated HQ based Firearms Departments.
Farmers appear to have no problems for obvious reasons.
macabethiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 19:30   #13
supergnome
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Isle of Axholme
Vehicle: T2, 2.7 TDI 2002 lwb
Posts: 955
Default

Firstly join the club as you don't have land sufficient to shoot one. This justifies the need for posession of the weapon (s). The club will work with you to get you your FAC and or shotgun cert. Do them both at once so they are co-terminus, is cheaper and you can use the same references.Only one needed for shotgun. You can dowload the forms from the BASC website so you can see the regs. It need not be an expensive hobby but its addictive.
If you need any further advice pm me and I will do my best to help. Had my fac for over 20yrs.David.
supergnome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 19:32   #14
rustic
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
rustic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Staffordshire
Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB
Posts: 7,825
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by firebobby View Post
I know a few people who have criminal records and hold shot gun certificates and I don't have a safe or cabinet for shotgun, I have a cable that's secured to the wall.
Ahh so sawing off the end then makes it easier to store then...

Once I was in Walmart in the USA, and people were just picking up ammo off the shelf, as if it were packets of biscuits
__________________
Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years.
Best car I have ever owned.
Just wish I could drive it more.
rustic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-09-2014, 19:46   #15
macabethiel
Senior Member
Click here to find out how to become a paid up member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Derby
Vehicle: Freelander & Jeep GC 3.0
Posts: 4,416
Wink Firearms Certificate

When I lived at home with my parents I too had a Sect 1 Firearms Certificate I had the same rifle as my Dad a 0.22 Calibre single bolt action Karabina and a Section 1 High Powered Air Rifle. We had some good shooting rights and I was a regular out on the local farms.

Eventually when I married and moved into the City everything became more expensive the cost of renewal just kept on going up and then they placed restrictions on the Certificate such as storage etc so after 15 years or so I surrendered both weapons and gave up.

Luckily I had by that time been Firearms Trained within the Police and was an Authorised Firearms Officer for the Smith & Western snub nosed concealed revolver as well as the standard revolver. I never fired a shot on operations being used for containment only as first response and for Royal Protection locally. When I was 40 I gave it up as the fitness side was very demanding.

As previusly said shooting can be quite addictive especially when you are young.
Best of luck with your application!
macabethiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:10.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Images online photo albums