maps

[exosteve]

wow. until I had deliverd today pretty much the whole of the uk os maps to browse at my leisure I didn't know I had so much around me to tackle

ive got lots of maps in paper but only in national parks n stuff for walking

I am now a man on a mission to find the best lanes in my area

thanks for that matey. I get them bits for you and work out who owes who what

[exosteve]

heres one lane local to me.
I took me os map to a lady on a farm and she said oh that must be gipsys lane over there it is but its only a path you cant drive it in the same breath she said well it is a lane though

say no more. I got a lot of go faster stripes for my efforts

[Fez_uk]

remember just because the OS maps says it's legal to drive does not make it so.

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oh well here goes

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lots more go fast stripes

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yes its on the map as a road.
I did one or two others that were suitable for any vehicle.
then I came across one that obviously hadn't been used for a long time.
I didn't do it as I was alone. it was a deffinate might get stuck jobbie.
so I walked it.
the first 20 yards were a quadmire very muddy. after that it looked untouched be even walkers.
I had an old dude come out moaning ive lived here 60 years its not a road? its a bridal way.
I had proof in my hand it was indeed a road.

I didn't take pics of that one
there will be a lot of pics coming from this direction now I have all the local maps

[Fez_uk]

No what I mean is, if it's saying it's a road on the map it might not be. So it might be a bridleway.

Only way to find out 100% is going to the rights of way department at your local council.

Also check trailwise online, Should be fairly up to date and right 99% of the time.

[exosteve]

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

remember just because the OS maps says it's legal to drive does not make it so.

what do you mean?

im new to this.enlighten me please.

I was following the green cross byway marks on an upto date os map.
there was no signs up saying otherwise.
the next door neighbour if you like said yes it is a lane?

but I got to the other end to a securely locked gate.

I had to turn around
there was also some buildings at that end that definatly were not on the map.

has this land been hijacked by a cheeky farmer?

so why ( I need to know as I don't want me truck taken away) could I have been breaking any laws please?

[Fez_uk]

You can't go 100% by the map, As some lanes would of been downgraded or closed. The maps may be a 10 year old or something. They should only be used as a guide.

[makeitfit]

Poxy govt laws a few years back restricted most of the old "Green Lanes" So there may be a right of way on the map but it may now be closed.
The only answer is to ask your council to check the routes you want to do against their "Definitive Map".

[exosteve]

ok. I had this chat with an elderly chap.
I backed down and reversed out.
but I don't understand the politics of this.its either a road or it isn't.
its on a map clearly marked as a road.theres no signs up saying otherwise?
im slightly confused.
obviously I need to learn before I start leading a group.
this is all very new to me. I thought it was like walking.
green crosses road.green dashes footpath?????
im stonned its something to discuss when I see you cant wait

[exosteve]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Poxy govt laws a few years back restricted most of the old "Green Lanes" So there may be a right of way on the map but it may now be closed.
The only answer is to ask your council to check the routes you want to do against their "Definitive Map".

wot a ball ache

[Fez_uk]

Originally Posted by exosteve

but I don't understand the politics of this.its either a road or it isn't.
its on a map clearly marked as a road.theres no signs up saying otherwise?

Thats right, it is or it isn't but the map could be old and wrong.

Don't think they have to signpost it to say it's closed for motor vehicles.

For instance, a greenlane was marked as a restricted byway (basicly motor vehicles not allowed) on old os maps around here. Which was wrong, It was a greenlane open to vehicles. Only recently has OS updated it. Just shows you can't take the OS maps as gospel.

Your better off joining a local group and learning which lanes are open or checking trailwise online.

[exosteve]

I don't like p n p days they bore me after an hour or two.
I don't want to depend on following the leader all the time as its not fair to let the same peeps put all the effort in all the time.

if it means ive got to frig about taking documents to the council before I even try go down a lane then I give up now and want a cheap 30 quid a year to tax car.

[Fez_uk]

check trailwise online will likely be right 99% of the time. Also join a local group. Most will have info on lanes if they are legal or not even if they never drive it.

http://www.trailwise.org.uk/gmaps/gmap.htm

You only get a 3km search area for non members, click the area you want to check. Say middle of the lane or nearby. Click search. Then click search 3km around xxxx