New car thoughts

[jonela]

I have the 2.7 auto and I love it, its so easy to drive ,but remember the auto box drastically reduces the towing capability. to under 1700 Kilo

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Originally Posted by rayf3262

Yes just as inaccurate, over reads by ~10%

dont most vehicles?, funny we have speed read out signs and at 30-40 can see error
but another one i pass must have error built in as car says 20, so thinking 22 but sign
says 20 as well. mind 10% is smaller difference at low speeds.

[rayf3262]

as far as I recall the regulations on speedometers are:
A) must not under read at any speed
B) must be within 10% up to 30MPH

In my Skoda Ocatavia I have 3 speed indicators.
1) OEM speedometer
2) Inbuilt car diagnostics
3) Sat Nav.

The speedo over reads, both the diagnostic display and the sat nav show the same lower speed.
As the diagnostic display uses the same speed sensor as the speedometer I conclude that the speedometer over reads by design!

[rayf3262]

Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

but was slush box in mistral not same as in uk r20s. thinking control/selector differed
and electronics? also jap spec has even lower tow rating on basis jap market doesnt tow as such, max 750kg?

The 4R01 was a 4-speed automatic transmission from Jatco was available as either a light-duty ("RL4R01A") or medium-duty ("RE4R01A") unit.

I wonder if the Mistral was fitted with the light duty version?

[briggie]

Originally Posted by rayf3262

The 4R01 was a 4-speed automatic transmission from Jatco was available as either a light-duty ("RL4R01A") or medium-duty ("RE4R01A") unit.

I wonder if the Mistral was fitted with the light duty version?

that's a very good question ray ..... I wonder , its true that the autobox doesn't seem to have as many problems as the manual box , but is that because there aren't as many uk models with the autobox ? .... I wonder .....good post ray

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by briggie

that's a very good question ray ..... I wonder , its true that the autobox doesn't seem to have as many problems as the manual box , but is that because there aren't as many uk models with the autobox ? .... I wonder .....good post ray

Hi Briggie,

I have always put it down to it being easier to abuse a manual than an automatic box save when towing and most autos have a warning light for overheated fluid - certainly my Chrysler has such a function and so did the r3mR.

[jims-terrano]

I once drove a Mistral auto and indeed it was a lovely smooth easy drive. That big clutch pedal made me bang my head on the screen though

[Peasgood1]

70mph on the speedo is 2750rpm, on the sat nav it is 3k rpm.

Some interesting stuff in the replies, thanks for your help.
Didn't even think about towing weights being different

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

tow weights unlikely to be a problem for almost any uk caravan

but coul limit say a horsebox with 2 horses or towing a mni digger etc.

[macabethiel]

The last post reminded me of the days when I was in the car trade in Burton-on-Trent.
My boss had a Ford Gran Torino Auto about a 6.8 Litre engine in gleaming white with the orange to red stripe down the side like Starsky & Hutch.

He was an avid Trotter & Pacer man and he used to go to the track near Hednesford with his Twin Rice Horse box on the back loaded with two winning horses.

After the racing he would ring me up to drive over and bring his car and horse box back and he would return the next day if he got lucky ladywise.

You could pull 90 mph with the Horse Box loaded and it did not even feel as though you had a trailer on the back !
Top speed was only around 105 mph as I recall but boy did it get up speed in style and comfort. Fuel consumption ? Under 10 mpg when towing. Around 15 mpg the rest of the time.

[Peasgood1]

Still looking around.
Liking the look of a Mitsi Shogun Sport. Is there any reason not to consider a manual 2.5 one of these? Or do I need to wash my mouth out with soap right now?

[AD Ent]

A sport is a warrior l200 with rear seats and boot. I'd rather have a proper shoggie. Thanks for the speedo rpm. I will check mine again now.

[Peasgood1]

Originally Posted by AD Ent

A sport is a warrior l200 with rear seats and boot. I'd rather have a proper shoggie. Thanks for the speedo rpm. I will check mine again now.

Odometer over reads by 4% too, compared to sat nav.

[micktheshed]

Originally Posted by AD Ent

I would be interested to know. Also do the 3.0 suffer from the same innacurate sppedo?

Agree with raf3262.
My speedo reads 36mph @true 30 (not even legal it's twice the error allowed!) but gets progressively better as speed rises...I think it might even be accurate if I could get to 120 LOL. The same can be said of the milometer. This is on the original 1/2 worn tyres.
Quite a common prob. on 4x4's of many makes, my Frontera was just as bad.

[micktheshed]

Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

3.0tdi auto max is 2000kg v manual 3000kg, something to consider if tug heavier
trailers.

I'm told this restriction is more to do with traction (auto can put more power down at low road speeds than manual) & possible overheating when towing. From a standing start they are capable of pulling very high loads, especialy using the reduction box. I've pulled a 3 1/2T motor home for several hundred yards over muddy grass with no prob. at all.