Lets have a flameout...

[extreme-4x4]

Originally Posted by daved

Cant comment on your local situation but i can assure you all decent cops ( and there are lazy crap ones out there..........bin them) carry a massive work load. Less of them means theres no capacity to take up the jobs left over. That includes prevention as well as response.

You are correct I can only conclude that the impact on Joe & Jo Public will be more impact from crime

One thing this govt are also overlooking is the broken window syndrome.

Its based on a well observed hypothesis that once an empty building gets a broken window and it doesnt get fixed it will attract more damage and soon become trashed. It attracts it.

The same applies to areas of crime and crime patterns. It also applies to everything else in public life from the state of the parks to the number of times your wheelie bin gets emptied.

Its a slippery slope.

personally i have little sympathy for the fire brigade when they have there seems to be annual strike over pay. especially as they are paid often not to work ,
the police you never really hear complain , and the nurses seem to have been quiet for a while, id not be too bothered or sympathetic to them if they did strike over pay...

but

reducing numbers, redundancies etc, i do sympathise with . it effects us and if we needed 50 coppers before we sure as hell will need 50 as times get tighter just looking at the social problems we are facing

but if you think about it our country is at war and we are . our country is under constant threat of terror attacks

scrapping aircraft carriers
redundancies in the armed forces
redundancies in police , health care
and god knows what else they have done or plan to

i just dont get it. talk about inviting trouble

[Invicta]

From what I understand we, as a country, owe nearly 1 Trillion £s.

The money has to come from somewhere and there are no "easy" options.
We don't have any gold reserves - thanks Gordon.
Our manufacturing base is almost non existant - cheers Maggie.
We are no longer able to use up North Sea Gas/Oil revenues.

I reckon the coalition is just throwing ideas around getting us all prepared for when the nasty IMF forces this country to pay our tab. So far the Tories have neatly shafted the Libs making them take the flak for Student Fees and then David C and his mates will balme the IMF for forcing them to implement cuts thereby trying to deflect the voters anger.

Perhaps we should take a lead from the North Africans and actually go and do something as opposed to wearing out our keyboards and blowing froth off our pints? (After you and no pushing from the rear).

Bern

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by jace

can you do anything about it though will police have to police striking policemen/women?

In short no

Tbh whilst ive previously bumped my gums about getting the right & striking i probably wouldnt have. Goes against the grain.

I would say 99% of my colleagues were the same. Im not so sure now.

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

scrapping aircraft carriers
redundancies in the armed forces
redundancies in police , health care
and god knows what else they have done or plan to

i just dont get it. talk about inviting trouble

Agree completely. Whilst the selfish part of my brain wants my pension, I wonder what we're leaving our kids. Im afraid at the mo my conclusion is a worthless crock of shit.

Originally Posted by Invicta

(After you and no pushing from the rear).

we have a few of those type.


As far as doing something about it, Ive been on every demo I could that was set up by our organsation, Ive worn out my keyboard emailing and writing letters. Not a lot more I could do.

Id like to think Id helped stopping everyone getting shafted as badly as they could be but im not sure

[(RIP) PLANK]

Originally Posted by jace

if your in a job on a pension then you should keep that deal,if you join from when change is made tough tity your on deal b! unfair to take some ones pension.

that is what they are going to do (apparently) contributions to date will be unaffected, just the ones from the change over on wards.

[(RIP) PLANK]

Originally Posted by paulp

i do agree to a certain degree

but coupled with the other hits the public sector has taken - such as a pay freeze for 3yrs and mass redundencies, i think timing could have been better.

I work in the public sector and the fat cats always cause a bad image for the rest of us who as the same as most people who earn enough to survive

paulp

ps stop the benefit scroungers/ cheats first that will save a fortune

it has been suggested that the benefit fraud is a drop in the ocean compared to tax fraud - yet we don't have a report the tax cheat help line

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by PLANK

it has been suggested that the benefit fraud is a drop in the ocean compared to tax fraud - yet we don't have a report the tax cheat help line

Well its like all this b/s with 'the City' worrying about bankers leaving the country if their bonuses are capped.

WTF do we need parasites like that for? Especially when Barclays, as one example, makes something like £7-8 billion squid yet pays only about £100m in corporation tax?

A sick joke is what it is.