Early mot fail rules

iandouglas · 09-03-2011, 22:51

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..............HI GUYS MY DISCO DUE FOR MOT NEXT MONTH AND I WAS GOING TO TAKE IT IN EARLY .......................
But remembered Briggie`s thread regarding Sheila`s Disco mot failure so I rang my mot test centre and asked the question and they directed me to this site.
what you lot recon. JUST READ BELOW THE zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs.
Also included the link.

A friend of mine maintains that if you have a car MOT Tested before the expiry date she will have 2 weeks in which to repair / drive it before it is illegal. I am under the understanding that once the MOT has expired you are not permitted to drive at all unless going to and from a place of repair (MOT Garage or otherwise). Please can you clairfy the correct and legal thing to do. Many Thanks, Dan Clark
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Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid. In fact you can have the Test done up to a calendar month before the expiry date and have the new MOT forward-dated to the expiry date of the existing certificate. So if you have your car Tested during that month and it fails, this gives you time to have the repairs carried out and the car re-tested before the expiry of the original certificate and you are not disadvantaged as a result. - MOTT.

lacroupade · 09-03-2011, 23:00

But its still a technicality...yes you won't get done for an expired MoT because the other ones remains valid. But depending on the reason(s) for failure, you stand to get done for driving an unroadworthy vehicle. And because the MoT fail will also be recorded on the DVLA database, you would be picked up for a stop by ANPR.

makeitfit · 09-03-2011, 23:11

I think I agree with the Luvgluv on this

It's double jeopardy as one can always be done for an unroadworthy car, but if it's on some data base in plod land then the dreaded ANPR will pick you up too

iandouglas · 09-03-2011, 23:24

this is what i was told at MOT test centre this afternoon .

they put me onto the web site

it dont say that in link though
eg.
Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid.

In fact you can have the Test done up to a calendar month before the expiry date and have the new MOT forward-dated to the expiry date of the existing certificate. So if you have your car Tested during that month and it fails, this gives you time to have the repairs carried out and the car re-tested before the expiry of the original certificate and you are not disadvantaged as a result. - MOTT..
there seems to be a discrepancy ..
_____

makeitfit · 09-03-2011, 23:36

Oooph, that's just what plod luvs, they'll have me done over before you can spell MOTT

Facist jobsworths

I know what you mean that the MOT cert can be valid to a certain date, and that one can early book it and so get 13 months ticket etc. However if you fail the mot test in month 11 then by defenition the car is not roadworthy

I assume it's trying to let you drive home post mot fail to fix it up , but you try telling PC "I've got a target to meet" Plod that and see what happens

Once again the law is an ass

lacroupade · 09-03-2011, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by iandouglas

this is what i was told at MOT test centre this afternoon .

they put me onto the web site

it dont say that in link though
eg.
Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid.

In fact you can have the Test done up to a calendar month before the expiry date and have the new MOT forward-dated to the expiry date of the existing certificate. So if you have your car Tested during that month and it fails, this gives you time to have the repairs carried out and the car re-tested before the expiry of the original certificate and you are not disadvantaged as a result. - MOTT..
there seems to be a discrepancy ..
_____

No discrepancy.....all it means is, as I said above, that you don't commit the technical offence of not having a valid MoT certificate. But thats all.

If you fail the early MoT because, say, of structural rust, or defective brakes etc.. then your vehicle is unroadworthy and illegal to drive. And because the MoT fail is logged on the DVLA system (together with your current certificate), it will be picked up by an ANPR camera, so you stand an excellent chance of being caught.

makeitfit · 09-03-2011, 23:44

I said that, but you said it posherer

lacroupade · 09-03-2011, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitfit

I said that, but you said it posherer

we crossed in the post LOL

makeitfit · 09-03-2011, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacroupade

we crossed in the post LOL

I get cheques and invoices doing that

Well cheques anyway, in the post

iandouglas · 09-03-2011, 23:49

looks like best thing to do then is get them to do an mot without using proper documentation (back of a fag packet or such)then if it fails there wont be a record except park drive tipped.

lacroupade · 09-03-2011, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by iandouglas

looks like best thing to do then is get them to do an mot without using proper documentation (back of a fag packet or such)then if it fails there wont be a record except park drive tipped.

well that would work but only in a dodgy garage of course.

iandouglas · 10-03-2011, 00:11

repeat this is what they told me this afternoon.
Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid.

briggie · 10-03-2011, 09:54

just to add to this ...... sheilas car failed the test mainly due to " excessive corrosion " on the inner wings , boot floor and such like , so by the definition posted in here of unroadworthy vehicle ..... id say that applies in the case of sheilas ( ex ) disco

lacroupade · 10-03-2011, 10:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by iandouglas

repeat this is what they told me this afternoon.
Your mot is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the mot - the original pass is still valid.

correct as a stand-alone statement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by briggie

just to add to this ...... Sheilas car failed the test mainly due to " excessive corrosion " on the inner wings , boot floor and such like , so by the definition posted in here of unroadworthy vehicle ..... Id say that applies in the case of sheilas ( ex ) disco

correct and means an immediate offence despite ian's point above.

Deleted account DD · 10-03-2011, 12:46

MOT fail means your vehicle has failed to meet some very very basic requirements to make it safe on the road.

Therfore anyone who continues using after that point is an arse. The get to repair clause is at the testers decision its not your automatic right, they can ground the car there and then if they want

Whatever the nuances of wording in legislation and whatever the keyboard experts say the fact is you can and deserve to be stuck on if caught. Been there and done it. One in paricular argued it had been a minor fail and went to court. The court held the view that a fail is a fail and in the opinion of a qulified expert ie the tester the vehicle should not have been on the road.

Quite rightly the accused was hit with all costs and a fine.

Result, one less proven unroadworthy vehicle on the road.

That's the way it is guys.

09-03-2011, 22:51	#1
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	Early mot fail rules MOT Questions & Answers page 3 Q&A PAGE 1 \| Q&A PAGE 2 If our Car Owner's Guide to the MOT or the questions and answers on these pages doesn't cover your problem, try posing your question on the MOT Forum. This is a selection of Frequently Asked Questions, more will be added from time to time. MOT CERTIFICATE VALID UNTIL FAILURE DATE LINK/CLICKY THING. http://www.motester.co.uk/CarOwnersG...OTQApage3.aspx ..............HI GUYS MY DISCO DUE FOR MOT NEXT MONTH AND I WAS GOING TO TAKE IT IN EARLY ....................... But remembered Briggie`s thread regarding Sheila`s Disco mot failure so I rang my mot test centre and asked the question and they directed me to this site. what you lot recon. JUST READ BELOW THE zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs. Also included the link. A friend of mine maintains that if you have a car MOT Tested before the expiry date she will have 2 weeks in which to repair / drive it before it is illegal. I am under the understanding that once the MOT has expired you are not permitted to drive at all unless going to and from a place of repair (MOT Garage or otherwise). Please can you clairfy the correct and legal thing to do. Many Thanks, Dan Clark ............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzz............... Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid. In fact you can have the Test done up to a calendar month before the expiry date and have the new MOT forward-dated to the expiry date of the existing certificate. So if you have your car Tested during that month and it fails, this gives you time to have the repairs carried out and the car re-tested before the expiry of the original certificate and you are not disadvantaged as a result. - MOTT.

09-03-2011, 23:24	#4
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	Early mot fail rules this is what i was told at MOT test centre this afternoon . they put me onto the web site it dont say that in link though eg. Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid. In fact you can have the Test done up to a calendar month before the expiry date and have the new MOT forward-dated to the expiry date of the existing certificate. So if you have your car Tested during that month and it fails, this gives you time to have the repairs carried out and the car re-tested before the expiry of the original certificate and you are not disadvantaged as a result. - MOTT.. there seems to be a discrepancy .. _____

09-03-2011, 23:49	#10
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	Early mot fail rules looks like best thing to do then is get them to do an mot without using proper documentation (back of a fag packet or such)then if it fails there wont be a record except park drive tipped.

09-03-2011, 23:00	#2
lacroupade Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: All hail to the Glove of Love... Posts: 9,212	But its still a technicality...yes you won't get done for an expired MoT because the other ones remains valid. But depending on the reason(s) for failure, you stand to get done for driving an unroadworthy vehicle. And because the MoT fail will also be recorded on the DVLA database, you would be picked up for a stop by ANPR.

09-03-2011, 23:11	#3
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	I think I agree with the Luvgluv on this It's double jeopardy as one can always be done for an unroadworthy car, but if it's on some data base in plod land then the dreaded ANPR will pick you up too

09-03-2011, 23:36	#5
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Oooph, that's just what plod luvs, they'll have me done over before you can spell MOTT Facist jobsworths I know what you mean that the MOT cert can be valid to a certain date, and that one can early book it and so get 13 months ticket etc. However if you fail the mot test in month 11 then by defenition the car is not roadworthy I assume it's trying to let you drive home post mot fail to fix it up , but you try telling PC "I've got a target to meet" Plod that and see what happens Once again the law is an ass

09-03-2011, 23:44	#7
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	I said that, but you said it posherer

10-03-2011, 00:11	#12
iandouglas Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NOTTINGHAMSHIRE Vehicle: LANDROVER Disco 300TDI Posts: 1,802	repeat this is what they told me this afternoon. Your MOT is valid until its expiry date even if in the meantime your car fails the MOT - the original pass is still valid.

10-03-2011, 09:54	#13
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	just to add to this ...... sheilas car failed the test mainly due to " excessive corrosion " on the inner wings , boot floor and such like , so by the definition posted in here of unroadworthy vehicle ..... id say that applies in the case of sheilas ( ex ) disco

10-03-2011, 12:46	#15
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	MOT fail means your vehicle has failed to meet some very very basic requirements to make it safe on the road. Therfore anyone who continues using after that point is an arse. The get to repair clause is at the testers decision its not your automatic right, they can ground the car there and then if they want Whatever the nuances of wording in legislation and whatever the keyboard experts say the fact is you can and deserve to be stuck on if caught. Been there and done it. One in paricular argued it had been a minor fail and went to court. The court held the view that a fail is a fail and in the opinion of a qulified expert ie the tester the vehicle should not have been on the road. Quite rightly the accused was hit with all costs and a fine. Result, one less proven unroadworthy vehicle on the road. That's the way it is guys.