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Old 22-01-2011, 15:02   #1
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Quick question, Can I use a towing dolly to tow a car that as no MOT or Tax?
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Old 22-01-2011, 15:15   #2
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yes, as far as i know, there is a guy near me who uses a dolly to scrap cars daily,
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Quick question, Can I use a towing dolly to tow a car that as no MOT or Tax?
No they are only legal for moving a car to place of safety ie nearsest layby then only if the car is fully road legal ie taxed mot and insured they are not legal for transporting cars although people do use them for that fine til you get caught
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essentialy, when you tow a car it becomes 'legaly' a trailer, and if it has a gross weight of over 750k it has to be braked on all 4 wheels. A dolly can't do this, at best the dolly wheels will have brakes and the ones on the car that touch the road won't.

They are, as cnfabs said, only for emergency recovery, not for transport. As is towing a car with a rope.
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All described spot on so I guess the answers no


rule of thumb for them is quite simply recovery only not routine transportation
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Old 22-01-2011, 17:27   #6
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mondeo to scrappy should be ok lol
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mondeo to scrappy should be ok lol
A lot of scrap yard will collect from your home and pay the agreed cash price.
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think theres a surcharge on collecting stuff from paul lol
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No they are only legal for moving a car to place of safety ie nearsest layby then only if the car is fully road legal ie taxed mot and insured they are not legal for transporting cars although people do use them for that fine til you get caught
That's what I thought, thanks'

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essentialy, when you tow a car it becomes 'legaly' a trailer, and if it has a gross weight of over 750k it has to be braked on all 4 wheels. A dolly can't do this, at best the dolly wheels will have brakes and the ones on the car that touch the road won't.


They are, as cnfabs said, only for emergency recovery, not for transport. As is towing a car with a rope.
As above Ta..

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All described spot on so I guess the answers no


rule of thumb for them is quite simply recovery only not routine transportation
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essentialy, when you tow a car it becomes 'legaly' a trailer, and if it has a gross weight of over 750k it has to be braked on all 4 wheels. A dolly can't do this, at best the dolly wheels will have brakes and the ones on the car that touch the road won't.

They are, as cnfabs said, only for emergency recovery, not for transport. As is towing a car with a rope.
so what about motorhomes with small car tagged on back??????

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Old 23-01-2011, 01:32   #11
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so what about motorhomes with small car tagged on back??????

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From what I have seen they have a gizmo in the car which breaks the same when the caravan breaks. Not 100% sure though.

http://www.a-tconsulting.co.uk/carav...ing_a_car.html
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Old 23-01-2011, 01:47   #12
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your right Fez, and they are generally a small light weight car that has road tax and insurance in their own intirety
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your right Fez, and they are generally a small light weight car that has road tax and insurance in their own intirety
....except in reality most people just use a straight A-frame which is unbraked so they are breaking the law.

Even with a 'braked' version, I suspect with no servo active the braking force would be sufficiently pissy as to be illegal as well.

But when did you ever see the rozzers pull one over? They are too middle -class!
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Very very few are lawful. Even the ones that have the groovy braking and lighting plug ins often become unlawful in use because , and this especially applies to coach built motorhomes, the towing vehicle often has no or absolute minimum tow rating.

The continental authorities are far stricter on this one and littered around camping forums you will see some horror stories.

Beyond that I have no idea because camper vans are crap


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But when did you ever see the rozzers pull one over? They are too middle -class!
Dont you believe it
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camper vans are crap
and also faster/better than a tin tent methinks.....
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