Fuel protests could bring the UK to a standstill

[extreme-4x4]

and that is the very reason fuel protests dont wont and never will work.

everyone has an issue with fuel prices (even daved), and everyone would be happy to protest. (if its not too much hassle)

BUT
within the space of 2 pages of posts the problem goes from fuel to immigrants to the Irish the banks and back again
to protest about something you have to find out what single item you are ALL protesting about... and stick to it

christ if you just took this thread as an example of a protest, it would be shut down easily . given an hour or two protesting chained to some gate . the coppers would have the lot of you on some enticement to racial hatred charge .... on a fuel demonstration ... ffs


and thats why its not going to happen . even if everyone was united take the miners strike for example .... nothing to stop the gov planting some paid help to get it kicking off .... and again shut down .
happens every time watch the bloody news

[extreme-4x4]

and another thing the more the people go on about race or culture. the more the country is divided. by blaming everyone else on the cost of fuel or the state of the country. you are shutting out probably 1/3rd of the people who have a voice . if they are not with you that counts as a not on side in politics

united we stand divided you fall.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by extreme-4x4

and that is the very reason fuel protests dont wont and never will work.

everyone has an issue with fuel prices (even daved), and everyone would be happy to protest. (if its not too much hassle)

BUT
within the space of 2 pages of posts the problem goes from fuel to immigrants to the Irish the banks and back again
to protest about something you have to find out what single item you are ALL protesting about... and stick to it

christ if you just took this thread as an example of a protest, it would be shut down easily . given an hour or two protesting chained to some gate . the coppers would have the lot of you on some enticement to racial hatred charge .... on a fuel demonstration ... ffs


and thats why its not going to happen . even if everyone was united take the miners strike for example .... nothing to stop the gov planting some paid help to get it kicking off .... and again shut down .
happens every time watch the bloody news

well said that man

I have a big problem with the massive proportion of the cost of a litre that the government creams off for no reason other than they can. Crude oil isnt actually that expensive, until its passes through the taxation system.

The missus and i are getting severely hammered in all these reforms, fuel costs being part of it all. Problem is like quite a few on this site, we're not poor enough to claim anything but not earning enough (like mps for example) to not give a toss and weather it.

I didnt vote for labour, i commented many times as a layman on their financially corrupt principals so I object strongly to paying for their cock ups.

Did you kow for example that pre the 1977 world wide slump ,that Milliband conveniently blames everything on, the government was getting more in from taxation than at any other time in pour recent history. However they were still spending more than was coming in and borrowing too oh yes and selling off gold stocks when the price was low If that isnt gross incompetence I dont know what is .

Bunch of ****ers.


Now standing down off the soap box

[Peasgood]

Originally Posted by daved

Not sure about the terminology but the point made is absolutely bang

I apologise for my terminology and for allowing myself to get wound up.

labour messed it all up if id have been cammeron id have said no boys you carry on you made mess YOU sort it end of labour lol
i cant believe we pay fuel duty (tax) then vat on price plus the duty then road tax and tax on every bloody thing you buy for your truck government aint got a clue where all immagrants are but it sure knows where your truck is when your road tax is due!

[11redrex]

Originally Posted by jace

veg oil lol been covered on here before because theres no hope of getting them to drop fuel tax and then vat on that tax! and the people who created this mess are sat on back benches writing there memoirs and dreaming of after dinner speaches for city bankers!
as for sending immagrants home watch that border force on one the freeview channels they raid areest illegals working in takeways etc then bail them with condition they dont do it again and report back to be deported ....it dont take a genuis to work out they aint gonna (turkys voting for christmass lol) when they do deport em charter a plane then there was 52 custody officers pls all the coaches etc one guy been paying tax for last ten yrs so how they not know he was here!
countrys a joke but at least were not french !

classic

drive slower lads, you'll use less fuel.

now heres a theory if i was to order in say 500gallon of red diesel declare i intend to use it as road fuel pay taxs on it so its no cheaper than white could i run on it legaly and apart from milage on mot whos gonna now that ive used my 500 gallon and am now on my 2000gallon of rebated fuel that i havent told em about my speedo dont work and id be paying cash for delivery to different locations because they have to tell hmrc on bulk orders.
reds about 75p litre

[extreme-4x4]

Originally Posted by Peasgood

I apologise for my terminology and for allowing myself to get wound up.

easily done, even easier in a real protest .
thats the trouble.... years ago look at the football in the 80's the coppers never had a chance to police them ... but with cctv they can easily take out the big names and make an example.... now trouble free football .

its the same with all modern day protests , too many laws on the fringe of the issue not directly removing your right to protest. cos that goes back to the magna carter or somit, but behind the scenes or just around the corner there is a law that everyone can fall foul of . thatcher done all that. the council tax riots was a world shocker. they wont ever let that happen again

this immigration thing plays right into the governments hands muti cultural society ... dividing the people is the reality ... and plenty play the game of intolerance and its those that are loosing there voice and right to protest .

dont get me wrong i like some on here with there own views on things, A LOT . im just explaining how it works my view ... and i have researched this a lot . im my youth i knew lots of very dangerous people most from the national front (not that i share there views now or ever) and knowing them and understanding how all that works on the streets , gives you a good picture of how sick and divided our GREAT BRITAIN is . its so heavily policed and pretty much lost to the gov.

unless someone can lead the people - mind you history dont paint a pretty picture of the ones that have, does it .

[extreme-4x4]

Originally Posted by jace

now heres a theory if i was to order in say 500gallon of red diesel declare i intend to use it as road fuel pay taxs on it so its no cheaper than white could i run on it legaly and apart from milage on mot whos gonna now that ive used my 500 gallon and am now on my 2000gallon of rebated fuel that i havent told em about my speedo dont work and id be paying cash for delivery to different locations because they have to tell hmrc on bulk orders.
reds about 75p litre

worth a shot give em a ring !

i get all twitchy round the tax man for some strange reason!

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by Peasgood

I apologise for my terminology and for allowing myself to get wound up.

dont worry at all the point was absolutely spot on.

[11redrex]

got to be delivered to a confirmed usage address and be accounted for, they'd be up your arse before you could say "what's that hanging out of my arse".

[Adz]

Read the 1st few & can't be arsed to read through

I'll just throw my 1p's worth in & retire from this thread

I'm with Tezzer & being a lorry driver i hope they block everything up BIG time.!

It's not the fuel companys but the poxy goverment . . .

If any of you are happy paying the prices we do for fuel then your either filthy rich or bloody stupid.!

Bring back the days when fuel was a USA style 35p a litre

[(RIP) PLANK]

Originally Posted by Peasgood

Get your facts right or just carry on thinking sending a load of ragheads home will get you paying less on your fuel.

i see your point too mate, though as you are following the thread you will already know

[Paul]

Originally Posted by jace

i get all twitchy round the tax man for some strange reason!

Me wonders why..