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View Poll Results: Which 1 would you rather have.......
The already owned Pajero 8 40.00%
The Terrano which i think just needs hubs 12 60.00%
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Old 19-12-2010, 21:47   #16
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I'm not a gambling man but having owned and driven several 3.1's i'd put money on it not being quicker off the mark than my T2
http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/.../1995_6/13544/

even the trooper is quicker to 60 than the tdi only by a few points of a second

but the bighorn has more power and a higher top end

actually looking at the trooper citation specs that does seem a bit slower than the horn as that has less power and torq odd

i got it the bighorn has a electronically controlled pump and not a manual unit like the trooper
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Old 19-12-2010, 21:48   #17
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Dirty Frog will be back on the road tomorrow
Its only a turbo

As tezzer knows I'm not sure what i want as my second 4x4
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Old 19-12-2010, 22:06   #18
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i think you should get a y60 intead but its not my coin... one day the frog will die and the second car might become the frogs replacement
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Old 19-12-2010, 22:16   #19
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If it does die it will mealy be reincarnated as its been put through hell & its a part of me now
The only time it will be replaced is if the shell gets bent or rots away

I just haven't got the hart to off road the Pajero even though it would probably be more capable than a terrano...

Plus these engines are so strong & i could keep 1 on the road with the others parts if things went wrong...
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Old 19-12-2010, 22:37   #20
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what about a normal car for a daily drive would be more sence than having a 4x4 just to putter to the shops in lol

what about a little jimny ? or even a cherry ? or how about a humber lol


tbh is it worth getting shot of the mk1 and going for the t2 as it is pritty much the same all over you would be getting no gain from swapping it, also i think the paj is a little bit better on the confort side of things
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Old 19-12-2010, 22:56   #21
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http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/.../1995_6/13544/

even the trooper is quicker to 60 than the tdi only by a few points of a second

but the bighorn has more power and a higher top end

actually looking at the trooper citation specs that does seem a bit slower than the horn as that has less power and torq odd

i got it the bighorn has a electronically controlled pump and not a manual unit like the trooper

I had a drive of several troopers before buying the T2 and before buying the Jeep (also drove the old monteray was the vauxhall version?) all diesel and a lotus tricked version of my mates. I have to say that as an all round usable truck the T2 is vastly superior imho irrespective of points of a second on paper.

None of the troopers can hold a candle to, except maybe to the dust of, a 2.7 grand cherokee for on the road manners and turn of speed.

Have to be quite blunt, if isuzu need to employ a sports car company to bring handling up to the point achieved by most bog standard trucks (unless its just a gimmick?), theres not much point in the academic difference in grunt anyway.



One truck i really did like when i had a shot was an amazon
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Old 19-12-2010, 23:00   #22
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Dirty Frog will be back on the road tomorrow
Its only a turbo

As tezzer knows I'm not sure what i want as my second 4x4
ahh i do know what you want, but it's getting one for the right price.
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Old 19-12-2010, 23:15   #23
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ahh i do know what you want, but it's getting one for the right price.
Its the cash as ya know
Defender 90 200tdi has to be top on all off roaders list
My problem is Dirty Frog was always going to end up a full time off roader
So the 2nd 4x4 will be the every day ride & green laner...
That terrano, if its just the hubs, although over priced, looks mint as mine did when i 1st got it & all I would do to it is 30" Insa Turbo Sahara's, Snorkel & a winch.
If anything went wrong then Dirty Frog would be the doner...
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http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/.../1995_6/13544/

even the trooper is quicker to 60 than the tdi only by a few points of a second

but the bighorn has more power and a higher top end

actually looking at the trooper citation specs that does seem a bit slower than the horn as that has less power and torq odd

i got it the bighorn has a electronically controlled pump and not a manual unit like the trooper
so have you got a link for the engine specs of the "Horn" and then we can work out a power to weight ratio. Just for fun of course!

the best i can find is this - http://carinfo.autold.com/car-isuzu_...d-long-ls.html

and yor right the "horn" has 12 more horse powers than the standard 3.1, but still less than my TDI and a lot heavier!
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Old 19-12-2010, 23:39   #25
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I had a drive of several troopers before buying the T2 and before buying the Jeep (also drove the old monteray was the vauxhall version?) all diesel and a lotus tricked version of my mates. I have to say that as an all round usable truck the T2 is vastly superior imho irrespective of points of a second on paper.

None of the troopers can hold a candle to, except maybe to the dust of, a 2.7 grand cherokee for on the road manners and turn of speed.

Have to be quite blunt, if isuzu need to employ a sports car company to bring handling up to the point achieved by most bog standard trucks (unless its just a gimmick?), theres not much point in the academic difference in grunt anyway.



One truck i really did like when i had a shot was an amazon

cant say the volvo amazon lights me up

how does having the road handling tuned by lotus make any difference at all, also this was only for the Japanese market.

right hold on here

how many Companies have taken the t2 as a car to sell ??? what nissan and ford bout it really aint it

now the trooper, vauxhall, Subaru, isuzu, acura, honda, holden and chevrolet

also the trooper has actually won rallies and Australian safari's unlike the t2

the t2 is a great 4x4 but in no way superior to any part time 4x4
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Old 19-12-2010, 23:43   #26
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so have you got a link for the engine specs of the "Horn" and then we can work out a power to weight ratio. Just for fun of course!

the best i can find is this - http://carinfo.autold.com/car-isuzu_...d-long-ls.html

and yor right the "horn" has 12 more horse powers than the standard 3.1, but still less than my TDI and a lot heavier!
already put a link up

horn has 133bhp with 294nm of torq

you link is for the ls version mine is the lotus se
http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/.../1995_6/13544/
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this thread is becoming nearly as exciting as the darts world championship
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Old 19-12-2010, 23:48   #28
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just for reference here is the list of bighorns made in 1995-96

http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/...ighorn/1995_6/

so my horn sits at 66bhp per ton
t2 tdi come in at 64.7 bhp per ton

right towing capacity of the t2 is 2800kg and 3500kg for the horn
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Old 19-12-2010, 23:52   #29
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I know its a Nissan forum but I wouldn't go buying a 94 LWB truck with intermittent 4wd problems for the best part of a grand for off-road use and leave a solid swb 4x4 that seems in great mechanical order and perfect for off-road use sitting in the drive. A truck that nice deserves to be drrrriiivvvvvvveeennnnn
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Old 19-12-2010, 23:54   #30
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Had a 3.0 Isuzu,went very well - for about 3 months then the High pressure oil pump started leaking,and then,and then !Gone it has,far away.
But in a past life I had two Isuzu pick ups,a 1.9 and 2.5 non turbo.Indestructable.
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