What's the speed limit on a green lane???

[jims-terrano]

Originally Posted by clivvy

for me, 5MPH.

A bit fast for some of the lanes I've been on

Jim

[iandouglas]

when I am out on the lanes i find 12mph is plenty fast enough in most conditions..
whats the point in going to the trouble of going onto the lanes if you are not going to look and enjoy them.
less likely to sustain damage as well.
we used to go out with someone else leading the group and we went a lot faster, so as to get as many lanes in as possible.
trouble was I couldnt remember where we went as most of it was just a blur.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by patbhoy

us Scots invented almost everything

and released the Lockerbie bomber

[briggie]

Originally Posted by iandouglas

when I am out on the lanes i find 12mph is plenty fast enough in most conditions..
whats the point in going to the trouble of going onto the lanes if you are not going to look and enjoy them.
less likely to sustain damage as well.
we used to go out with someone else leading the group and we went a lot faster, so as to get as many lanes in as possible.
trouble was I couldnt remember where we went as most of it was just a blur.

im a green laning virgin , so its nice to know the protocol

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

good picture patrol man, looks like our houndkirk road on steroids!

perhaps a north yorks moors meet is in order. love that area, earlier
in summer took the back lane to the NYM railway north out of
Pickering, was metal'ed though only just in places up to grosmont
found a gate across a public road, thought just like laning! and
then a ford outside grosmont. then back south down main road via
goathland and early warning at filingdales, mind still miss the 'golf balls'
compared to that ugly pyramid thing they've got now!

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

good topic by the way.

not had that many issues in past,

ones i recall are doing stanage 20 years ago in a poorly range rover.
was none starter really, car was just wasnt fit and we were on our
own, trying it up hill from bamford side, only because saw others
exiting it and bravardo kicked in. in bottom marshy stages clutch
failure, and some bobblies launched verbal attack on us. rescued
by a ranger on foot who supported our vehicular right. turned round
to find the twats had sabotaged track all way back to entrance
upturning large rocks. so whilst nursing clutch was getting out shifting
rocks.

more recently landowner in bamford area concerned at never ending
processions of 4bys, mind think checking we werent sheep rustling?
too!

finally horse owner, novice horse upset we upseting horse, suggest
dont ride on public green lanes if cant stand heat. only got ugly as
owner kicked off so rudely, then claimed daughter was upset, yep
by her mum's obsessive behaviour.

[clivvy]

seems to me its a typical example of how many people simply cannot share. end of the day, its everyones country. these lanes are free to use for trucks and people. but there are far FAR more tracks for people to walk on, so piss off and walk on them and quit being childish.

nobheads.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Originally Posted by patbhoy

I just wish we had green lanes, us Scots invented almost everything but missed out on those

believe there are some rights of way, though not classified as in england and wales.

lot of it comes down to the clearance acts especially in the high(er) lands?

there is a well known track name escapes me top side of fort william i think, maybe
lord something or to do with mcalpine, or could be totally up wrong tree there.

suspect there are other routes like in england where you could ask the land owner
nicely yeah right, and even if it has none or lower rights on could drive.

especially if approached as a club, perhaps offered to maintain it, after all bods
have driven up ben nevis etc with permission. dont ask dont get.

otherwise it pay n play.

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by clivvy

there are far FAR more tracks for people to walk on, so piss off and walk on them and quit being childish.

nobheads.

Thats pretty anti walker and completely unjustified how would you (lawfully) walk the Cleveland Way to name just one if all vehicle drivers took that stance

A walker could be well justified in saying (bearing in mind my chat with the game keeper ironically on the Cleveland way) motor vehicles take up the most space and are more likely to cause damage pro rata per person.

As I said before give and take, live and let live.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

good old google,

general wade's military road aka

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrieyairack_Pass

good couple of hours, even if not extreme, mind
in winter gather snow can several feet deep...

[solarman216]

A good rule, forgotten by some, ignored by many, is, "you should only drive at a speed that you can stop, in the distance that you can see to be clear" Rick

[makeitfit]

Picking up a bit on what Daved said; I feel I've missed out a bit on how 4x4 ers have been left with the dregs of the lanes
Walkers and horsers have their own tracks that we CANT go near, conversly they can go all over the last few lanes remaining for 4x4 ers
Live n let live sure, but share and share alike please
As regards damage to lanes etc. I have my own little theory that goes something like this:- the fewer the legal lanes the more the 4x4 ers on them the more the damage the more they bloody close , repeat
As regards speed, I'm with solarman

[Adz]

Will always be heated

The good old LANE DEBATE

My view on it is this

I think that for example in Essex, there are public footpath signs everywhere, bridleways some restricted are just as common but try & find a sign posted public or restricted byway near on gold dust
Hence why i will travel to gods country Wales & opp North to the Dales & Moorlands

What should be done but never will is to open footpaths only to bridleways as a horse will be not much wider so can there for use it & open bridleways to byways where access can be naturally traveled by 4x4's i think.

At the end of the day you can get near enough anywhere on foot.

People who ride horses have access to farm fields (as thats where most are in stables at farms) plus beaches

& what do 4x4'ers have a few lanes that we get accused of destroying (as normal its only a small minority as in everything that do wrong) & boring small pay'n'play sites with the exception of a few Big 1's

The 4x4 is mealy an escape goat to close lanes

[Deleted account DD]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Picking up a bit on what Daved said; I feel I've missed out a bit on how 4x4 ers have been left with the dregs of the lanes
Walkers and horsers have their own tracks that we CANT go near, conversely they can go all over the last few lanes remaining for 4x4 ers
Live n let live sure, but share and share alike please
As regards damage to lanes etc. I have my own little theory that goes something like this:- the fewer the legal lanes the more the 4x4 ers on them the more the damage the more they bloody close , repeat
As regards speed, I'm with solarman

TBH I dont know the details of what lanes are what by us. I see where you're coming from about the number of them but surely that reflects life and the car in general.

Drive round a housing estate and theres loads of roads , open to all. then theres cycle lanes and footpaths, then theres footpaths only that cars couldn't physically fit down that "template" seems to apply.

As far as damage goes, not a bad theory.But as an example of how much damage trucks do. In an earlier life I used to get to drive landrovers (hence my dislike of them) to "a location". Full stop.

Our only instructions were to get to a given point in the vehicle(s) Often tops of hills and dig in. The only thing we had to be aware of was leaving too many indications of where we were or had been. Not because the tree huggers were worried about broken blades of grass. We were doing a job.

Unless you've tried that you probably have no idea how bloody difficult it is. Sometimes we just about did it. Others we trashed the space despite best intentions and you could have seen it from the moon

We screwed up at times yet were trained and practised.

I always have this in the back of my mind when I see clearly incompetent or thoughtless 4x4ers up on the moors. Theres enough fair wear and tear on lanes and tracks without pillocks joining in or going off piste.

Therefore due to the minority plus the fact that a 2 tonne truck will wear tracks away they have to regulate things.

I'm not saying the other groups are innocent. You only have to go up across by Osmotherly to see what inconsiderate mountain bikers (aka ecological vandals) are achieving.

Walkers cop for it too. Theres quite a few areas up there too where there are clear signs saying please keep to the designated paths and the reasons are usually posted too. However some people think they know better.........they don't and get it pointed out to them

ps Adz if you reckon farm fields are a reason for having a horse, I'll get you a day out in asdas car park.......that's the car equivalent, I know you'd love it.

[Adz]

Originally Posted by daved

ps Adz if you reckon farm fields are a reason for having a horse, I'll get you a day out in asdas car park.......that's the car equivalent, I know you'd love it.

No thanks, ya keep ya bloody superstore / retail car parks for yaself


What i mean is that most farms have stables & fields that can be riden in