Do We Have A Tiler On Here???

jims-terrano · 28-02-2010, 23:37

Could be me but I'm sure somebody once said they were a tiler by trade on here?

Could do with some advice as I'm fitting a shower soon. Normally I would fit the tray against the wall and fill the gap with silicone so it aint gonna leak. Then tile around the tray with another bead of silicone where the tiles meet the tray.
However the shower that I've got says you can either fit the shower and enclosure direct to bare plaster wall and tile upto the tray and enclosure or tile the walls down to the floor and then fix tray and enclosure to the tiles. I prefer my way but is it wrong? could be the fancy enclosure wont fit if the tray is recessed into the tiles and enclosure fitted to the tiles if you see what I mean.

Jim T

PS I'm now gonna hang my head in shame as this isn't to do with 4x4's

Adz · 28-02-2010, 23:44

extreme-4x4 aka Colin

sidsid06 · 01-03-2010, 00:30

when i was in the building you can do it both ways!!! we usually put tray in first then tile to the tray! but the other way keeps it all equal so tray and shower surround are being mounted at the same distance ie off the tiles

or have your self a walk in wet room

Deleted account DD · 01-03-2010, 09:06

Refitted ours a year or so ago and did it your way jim

looks fine and hasnt leaked (touch wood)

makeitfit · 01-03-2010, 10:53

Defo fit tray first, seal and then tile and seal again

Belt and indeed braces

rustic · 01-03-2010, 18:23

The best trays have an upstand (Vertical edge about 25mm high) on the 2 rear edges, you recess the wall, place tray in position then tile over the upstand. Silicone as required.
For standard trays I have always tiled after ftting the tray.
A quick note on the shower cubicle, no need to seal the inside, do all the sealing on the outside of the tray, otherwise they leak.
Regards, Rustic

jims-terrano · 01-03-2010, 21:33

Well I recon that I'll do a dry run with the cubicle and tray and just to see how it all fits together. I tiled the walls and left the bottom rows where the tray fits so not too much hassle really.

Thanks for the thoughts guys.
Jim

extreme-4x4 · 01-03-2010, 23:52

its your way jim. but id always use the trays with the upstand on all 4 sides. they never leak ............ ever

better if you tank the walls first too....... keeps the mould at bay too

28-02-2010, 23:37	#1
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Do We Have A Tiler On Here??? Could be me but I'm sure somebody once said they were a tiler by trade on here? Could do with some advice as I'm fitting a shower soon. Normally I would fit the tray against the wall and fill the gap with silicone so it aint gonna leak. Then tile around the tray with another bead of silicone where the tiles meet the tray. However the shower that I've got says you can either fit the shower and enclosure direct to bare plaster wall and tile upto the tray and enclosure or tile the walls down to the floor and then fix tray and enclosure to the tiles. I prefer my way but is it wrong? could be the fancy enclosure wont fit if the tray is recessed into the tiles and enclosure fitted to the tiles if you see what I mean. Jim T PS I'm now gonna hang my head in shame as this isn't to do with 4x4's

01-03-2010, 18:23	#6
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	The best trays have an upstand (Vertical edge about 25mm high) on the 2 rear edges, you recess the wall, place tray in position then tile over the upstand. Silicone as required. For standard trays I have always tiled after ftting the tray. A quick note on the shower cubicle, no need to seal the inside, do all the sealing on the outside of the tray, otherwise they leak. Regards, Rustic __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

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28-02-2010, 23:44	#2
Adz Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming Nomad Vehicle: 1995 SWB Terrano Posts: 5,370	extreme-4x4 aka Colin

01-03-2010, 00:30	#3
sidsid06 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: gloucestershire Vehicle: terrano2 2.7td Posts: 291	when i was in the building you can do it both ways!!! we usually put tray in first then tile to the tray! but the other way keeps it all equal so tray and shower surround are being mounted at the same distance ie off the tiles or have your self a walk in wet room

01-03-2010, 09:06	#4
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	Refitted ours a year or so ago and did it your way jim looks fine and hasnt leaked (touch wood)

01-03-2010, 10:53	#5
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Defo fit tray first, seal and then tile and seal again Belt and indeed braces

01-03-2010, 21:33	#7
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Well I recon that I'll do a dry run with the cubicle and tray and just to see how it all fits together. I tiled the walls and left the bottom rows where the tray fits so not too much hassle really. Thanks for the thoughts guys. Jim

01-03-2010, 23:52	#8
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	its your way jim. but id always use the trays with the upstand on all 4 sides. they never leak ............ ever better if you tank the walls first too....... keeps the mould at bay too