no, im not racist, yet

tezzer · 23-01-2009, 02:06

ENGLAND

I think this really sums it all up.

After hearing that many cities did not want to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights, so DIDN'T!

After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered.

After hearing of a Primary School in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football League shirts (Aston Villa,Birmingham, West Brom etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others !

This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen.
Published in a British tabloid newspaper.

IMMIGRANTS. NOT BRITONS, MUST ADAPT.

Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits.

However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain . However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand..

This idea of London being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives and one of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language! 'In God We Trust' is our National Motto.

This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.

If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture. If St.George's cross offends you, or you don't like ' A Fair Go', then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this.

But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.

We didn't force you to come here. If you don't like it GO HOME!!

You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted. Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try,

tezzer

dinky · 23-01-2009, 07:18

Go onto utube and have a look at what Pat Condell has to say about modern Brittain.

jims-terrano · 23-01-2009, 09:07

I really feel that this is the wrong kind of post for a public forum like this. I have my own views just like everyone else but this is not the place to air them (in my view

). Don't know where this text came from but look at what it says "After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered." Have the DVLA stopped issuing licenses now? Think this text should be taken with a pinch of salt as the facts do not seem to be quite correct.

We should all think before we post because Bat can be held resposible for the content of this site.

Sorry not getting at you personally Tezzer.

Jim

23-01-2009, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Don't know where this text came from but look at what it says "After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered." Have the DVLA stopped issuing licenses now? Think this text should be taken with a pinch of salt as the facts do not seem to be quite correct.

I was thinking exactly the same.

Best make that a truck-load of salt.

What about "In God we trust" being a national motto? For the USA, for sure, but I didn't think Britain had become the 51st state quite just yet!

tezzer · 23-01-2009, 12:24

it was'nt intended to upset anyone, i posted it because i believe we are loosing our rights everyday, some area's are not permitted to put up christmas lights, fly our flag (where i live), our own children can't get council housing, which affects me personly, my daughter has been told she will have to wait 7-10 years for a house, so she lives with us with her husband and 2 kids, but down the road they built 50 new homes for immirgrants, to tell the truth it's enough to make people racists, (which im not, yet).

tezzer

jims-terrano · 23-01-2009, 16:33

Don't worry it takes a lot more than that to upset me

Jim T

Deleted Member D · 23-01-2009, 16:47

Sorry wrong thread.

23-01-2009, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by tezzer

it's enough to make people racists, (which im not, yet).

I'm not sure I get you. Your council / regulator being imbeciles (prohibiting Xmas lights, prohibiting the St George's cross, etc) is enough to make people believe that whites are superior to non-whites?

I don't see how it follows.

Besides, are you sure you can't put up Xmas lights and fly your flag (Union, England, whatever) where you live? Or is it another one of those urban myths?

wolf · 23-01-2009, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by tezzer

our own children can't get council housing, which affects me personly, my daughter has been told she will have to wait 7-10 years for a house, so she lives with us with her husband and 2 kids, but down the road they built 50 new homes for immirgrants

tezzer

Im afraid i have to agree, i have waited some time to get a house and am still waiting to move in to a house.

where as i know of several non national people who have been housed with in weeks, and i personally know of two families who were moved from perfectly good housed to more modern houses, yet i still am waiting, i have lived in this country all my life worked for years, and paid my taxes!!!

tezzer · 23-01-2009, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by avillaschi

I'm not sure I get you. Your council / regulator being imbeciles (prohibiting Xmas lights, prohibiting the St George's cross, etc) is enough to make people believe that whites are superior to non-whites?

I don't see how it follows.

Besides, are you sure you can't put up Xmas lights and fly your flag (Union, England, whatever) where you live? Or is it another one of those urban myths?

it's no myth, i put up an england flag for the euro's (football) i was told to take it down so it did'nt offend other religions, so i put it on my transit so it was a waste of their time, and if you watch the news you would have seen that certain area's of this country was not aloud to erect christmas lights in their villages etc so as not to offend other religions, if they come here they should be the ones to change not the british people, im not a racist, my next door neighbours are black and i get on very well with them, ;

tezzer

tezzer · 23-01-2009, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

Im afraid i have to agree, i have waited some time to get a house and am still waiting to move in to a house.

where as i know of several non national people who have been housed with in weeks, and i personally know of two families who were moved from perfectly good housed to more modern houses, yet i still am waiting, i have lived in this country all my life worked for years, and paid my taxes!!!

exactly wolf, you have no rights at all mate, enoch powell was right all those years ago, i think it was the national front then iirc, ps anyone know where i can get bnp flag?

tezzer

extreme-4x4 · 24-01-2009, 02:30

well this is all well and good... but what are you going to do about it

a bag fat nothing
because you cant. we all gave up our right to protest with the council tax riots. and this was made worse by the 7/11 bombings
that is you and i have no right to complain or protest in numbers...

even if you found a way to make your voice heard, like the people who organized the petrol blockades some 10 years ago. they had to stop for demonstrating peacefully. the man who started it, went on the telly and said he had to stop cos he had a load of men from the vat and revenue telling him he'd loose everything. they will find something to make him stop.... so he had to

its not a fair society we give and we welcome but are told we cant go into there community ... trouble is.... that was our country once, they were our streets that we grew up in and knew people . now we cant enter and our society cant police it either

you cant fly your flag because its been dirtied by the national front and the bnp... but the fact is its your flag the union flag and or the st geoges cross and you should embrace it ... its your identity. people did die for it... through centuries of wars so that we coud have a free country, freedom of speach, oppinion and choice. and what do we do with it. disguard it like its nothing to be proud of . ashamed of our flag as if its somthing we have done wrong.

if the blitz happened tomorrow we'd all be out there waving the surrender flags

why does accepting people into our society, that we and our ancestors worked so hard to create and fight for, mean we cant have what made our country great its identity our identity its faith our faith . why if we are giving a home shelter and protection mean we have to give it all, we are left with next to nothing

as a kid... when you had sweats and your friends wanted one. you would let them have some ....but you didnt give them the packet and leave yourself with nothing

when your neighbor asks to borrow your garden rake. you dont give it to them...you expect it back cos its yours, you worked hard for that.

you dont tend to lend your car , house wife kids etc cos you want to keep them and you wouldnt exactly want to loose them or have them broken
so why am i expected to give up my freedom of speach and choice .

these are things you should hold on to because they are the important things . the things you cant go without

why is it wrong to expect my kids to do a school christmas nativity play

why is it wrong for me to expect my kids to be taught only christianity in a british school

why is it wrong for me to expect fair housing for native british citizens

why is it wrong to expect to keep my british identity

im told the kids learn other religions at school to give fredom of choice how many non beleivers get a choice. .and chrismas nativity might offend . well it offends me its not allowed

veils offend me, fully covered muslim women offend me. much the same as prince harry in a nazi uniform offends people.

can i go in a bank with a crash helmet on.... no my face would be covered

can i drive a car with a mask on... no cos my vision would be impared and could have a crash

my favorite recently, was the problem with the word paki (prince harry)

how many scotish people are offended by the word scott

jewish - jews

british - brits

australians - ozzies

its an abreviation thats all

and i think if anyone wants to ask a question or post something interesting like the start of this subject . then thasts there choice to ask or have there say.
its there right . and its your right not to read it if you choose not to

i dont think anyone has said anything thats ilegal nor offensive. they just said there thoughts. questioning if you like

and im not racist either.

i give everyone a chance but once you have used or abused that . then you wont be getting any more sweats or borrowing my garden rake

its not that hard, kids have managed since time began giving and sharing

but if you abuse it you aint having no more

extreme-4x4 · 24-01-2009, 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by tezzer

exactly wolf, you have no rights at all mate, enoch powell was right all those years ago, i think it was the national front then iirc, ps anyone know where i can get bnp flag?

tezzer

yes..... but they are very illegal and you will get into lots of trouble for inciting racial hatred and violence

Damian Strudley · 24-03-2009, 21:31

Watching the news tonight in Yorkshire, Muslims are now applying for the rights to hold funeral pires in the open air as they feel that a crematorium is not suitable as it blocks the passage to God, Oh where is Health and Safety when you need it!!!! surely open fires in field burning bodies must be an issue ( just look back at the MAD COW's )

I always wonder wouldn't they then go to our god if its above the UK, surely they should return the bodies abroad if its that much of a worry

polty · 24-03-2009, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by tezzer

it was'nt intended to upset anyone, i posted it because i believe we are loosing our rights everyday, some area's are not permitted to put up christmas lights, fly our flag (where i live), our own children can't get council housing, which affects me personly, my daughter has been told she will have to wait 7-10 years for a house, so she lives with us with her husband and 2 kids, but down the road they built 50 new homes for immirgrants, to tell the truth it's enough to make people racists, (which im not, yet).

tezzer

not to forget the proposed changes to OFF ROAD TYRES

23-01-2009, 02:06	#1
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	no, im not racist, yet ENGLAND I think this really sums it all up. After hearing that many cities did not want to offend other cultures by putting up Xmas lights, so DIDN'T! After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered. After hearing of a Primary School in Birmingham where a boy was told that for PE they could wear Football League shirts (Aston Villa,Birmingham, West Brom etc) but NOT an England shirt as it could offend others ! This prompted the editorial below written by a UK citizen. Published in a British tabloid newspaper. IMMIGRANTS. NOT BRITONS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits. However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the 'politically correct' crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain . However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.. This idea of London being a multicultural centre for community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories fought by the untold masses of men and women who laid down their lives and one of the millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language! 'In God We Trust' is our National Motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture. If St.George's cross offends you, or you don't like ' A Fair Go', then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'. We didn't force you to come here. If you don't like it GO HOME!! You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted. Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, tezzer

23-01-2009, 16:47	#7
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Damian Strudley Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kent is my main base agian still work in Yorks Vehicle: Maverick Chasseur lwb Posts: 55	sad state of affairs Watching the news tonight in Yorkshire, Muslims are now applying for the rights to hold funeral pires in the open air as they feel that a crematorium is not suitable as it blocks the passage to God, Oh where is Health and Safety when you need it!!!! surely open fires in field burning bodies must be an issue ( just look back at the MAD COW's ) I always wonder wouldn't they then go to our god if its above the UK, surely they should return the bodies abroad if its that much of a worry

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23-01-2009, 07:18	#2
dinky Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF SOUTH YORKSHIRE Vehicle: t20 lwb Posts: 1,238	Go onto utube and have a look at what Pat Condell has to say about modern Brittain.

23-01-2009, 09:07	#3
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	I really feel that this is the wrong kind of post for a public forum like this. I have my own views just like everyone else but this is not the place to air them (in my view ). Don't know where this text came from but look at what it says "After hearing that the Birmingham council changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's licence with her face covered." Have the DVLA stopped issuing licenses now? Think this text should be taken with a pinch of salt as the facts do not seem to be quite correct. We should all think before we post because Bat can be held resposible for the content of this site. Sorry not getting at you personally Tezzer. Jim

23-01-2009, 12:24	#5
tezzer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: basildon essex Vehicle: transit camper van 1987 Posts: 2,829	it was'nt intended to upset anyone, i posted it because i believe we are loosing our rights everyday, some area's are not permitted to put up christmas lights, fly our flag (where i live), our own children can't get council housing, which affects me personly, my daughter has been told she will have to wait 7-10 years for a house, so she lives with us with her husband and 2 kids, but down the road they built 50 new homes for immirgrants, to tell the truth it's enough to make people racists, (which im not, yet). tezzer

23-01-2009, 16:33	#6
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Don't worry it takes a lot more than that to upset me Jim T

24-01-2009, 02:30	#12
extreme-4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WALES Posts: 6,295	well this is all well and good... but what are you going to do about it a bag fat nothing because you cant. we all gave up our right to protest with the council tax riots. and this was made worse by the 7/11 bombings that is you and i have no right to complain or protest in numbers... even if you found a way to make your voice heard, like the people who organized the petrol blockades some 10 years ago. they had to stop for demonstrating peacefully. the man who started it, went on the telly and said he had to stop cos he had a load of men from the vat and revenue telling him he'd loose everything. they will find something to make him stop.... so he had to its not a fair society we give and we welcome but are told we cant go into there community ... trouble is.... that was our country once, they were our streets that we grew up in and knew people . now we cant enter and our society cant police it either you cant fly your flag because its been dirtied by the national front and the bnp... but the fact is its your flag the union flag and or the st geoges cross and you should embrace it ... its your identity. people did die for it... through centuries of wars so that we coud have a free country, freedom of speach, oppinion and choice. and what do we do with it. disguard it like its nothing to be proud of . ashamed of our flag as if its somthing we have done wrong. if the blitz happened tomorrow we'd all be out there waving the surrender flags why does accepting people into our society, that we and our ancestors worked so hard to create and fight for, mean we cant have what made our country great its identity our identity its faith our faith . why if we are giving a home shelter and protection mean we have to give it all, we are left with next to nothing as a kid... when you had sweats and your friends wanted one. you would let them have some ....but you didnt give them the packet and leave yourself with nothing when your neighbor asks to borrow your garden rake. you dont give it to them...you expect it back cos its yours, you worked hard for that. you dont tend to lend your car , house wife kids etc cos you want to keep them and you wouldnt exactly want to loose them or have them broken so why am i expected to give up my freedom of speach and choice . these are things you should hold on to because they are the important things . the things you cant go without why is it wrong to expect my kids to do a school christmas nativity play why is it wrong for me to expect my kids to be taught only christianity in a british school why is it wrong for me to expect fair housing for native british citizens why is it wrong to expect to keep my british identity im told the kids learn other religions at school to give fredom of choice how many non beleivers get a choice. .and chrismas nativity might offend . well it offends me its not allowed veils offend me, fully covered muslim women offend me. much the same as prince harry in a nazi uniform offends people. can i go in a bank with a crash helmet on.... no my face would be covered can i drive a car with a mask on... no cos my vision would be impared and could have a crash my favorite recently, was the problem with the word paki (prince harry) how many scotish people are offended by the word scott jewish - jews british - brits australians - ozzies its an abreviation thats all and i think if anyone wants to ask a question or post something interesting like the start of this subject . then thasts there choice to ask or have there say. its there right . and its your right not to read it if you choose not to i dont think anyone has said anything thats ilegal nor offensive. they just said there thoughts. questioning if you like and im not racist either. i give everyone a chance but once you have used or abused that . then you wont be getting any more sweats or borrowing my garden rake its not that hard, kids have managed since time began giving and sharing but if you abuse it you aint having no more