I am re-born somehow so The Clown Loach isback !

[macabethiel]

Hi everyone just a quick hello as I seem to have been given the power to be a member of some sort once more !

TBH I have logged on most days since my membership ended as this site is a hard habit to kick.

I have become a free member on two BMW sites but as yet have not had much in the way of helpful replies as to where to find an under bonnet ignition type live feed. I have googled a search and found a possible access point. I intend connect the final wire for my DTRL's next week but have to do some decorating first to earn some Wiffey Brownie points first !

Me under the thumb ? No point being in denial is there ?

[terranosaurusdoug]

Wahey welcome back, great to still see your name and fish come up are they a salt water fish?, my boy wants some fish, we have a great place very close called Ferrybridge Aquatics and the guy said the cold water ones were harder too keep

As for a live on your beemer I bet it's hard to find any wires period, there must be allsorts in there!!

[rustic]

Originally Posted by macabethiel

Hi everyone just a quick hello as I seem to have been given the power to be a member of some sort once more !

TBH I have logged on most days since my membership ended as this site is a hard habit to kick.

I have become a free member on two BMW sites but as yet have not had much in the way of helpful replies as to where to find an under bonnet ignition type live feed. I have googled a search and found a possible access point. I intend connect the final wire for my DTRL's next week but have to do some decorating first to earn some Wiffey Brownie points first !

Me under the thumb ? No point being in denial is there ?

Nice to see you back, have you tried attacking the front windscreen wiper, one of those should be a suitable feed, for example, if your wipers are on, and you switch the ignition off, do the wipers stop mid wipe? if so... there you go.
Rustic

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by terranosaurusdoug

Wahey welcome back, great to still see your name and fish come up are they a salt water fish?, my boy wants some fish, we have a great place very close called Ferrybridge Aquatics and the guy said the cold water ones were harder too keep

As for a live on your beemer I bet it's hard to find any wires period, there must be allsorts in there!!

The Clown Loach is in fact a freshwater tropical fish originally from Borneo. They can grow quite large over the years up to 6 inches in body length. They are best kept in a Shoal I have 22 but TBH a group of 5 or 6 is fine. They are quite shy and mostly nocturnal but come out to feed in daylight.

They are very brightly marked when young but after about 5 years as they grow older they become darker. They are not aggressive but have a defensive scalpel hidden in the front side fin. If you handle one they can give you a nasty paper type cut so I take care when catching them. They sometimes lie on their side on the bottom of the tank giving the appearance of being dead. They like to sleep in groups in a pipe or tube and as they grow the Alpha Male will produce a hormone to suppress the growth of other males. To stop this regular water changes as they grow stops this occurring.

They are hardy once acclimatised but need good quality water as they have no scales being a fish with just skin like us. I used to buy young ones for around £2.50 each and after 2-3 years sell them back to a local pet store for £10 each at around 4-5 inches in size. These days I just keep them and will only sell some if they grow too large for my tank.

I no longer keep Tropical Marine fish due to cost and difficulty. Cold water salt fish are difficult as you would need a cooler to keep the water temperature stable. Some UK rock pool specimens would be more temperature tolerant. If you go for fishkeeping I always advise to start with Freshwater Tropical and after a couple of years experience with the easy to keep specimens go for a difficult species like Discus before trying Marines. That route will save you a lot of money and heartache!

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by rustic

Nice to see you back, have you tried attacking the front windscreen wiper, one of those should be a suitable feed, for example, if your wipers are on, and you switch the ignition off, do the wipers stop mid wipe? if so... there you go.
Rustic

Good point Rustic I have found that there is a "wiring loom junction" near the wiper motor and next week I am going to see if I can find a suitable feed. A google search showed a good picture with the colour code of a suitable feed but I forgot to save the search and haven't been able to find it again. The Haynes Manual is not as good as they once were but I might just take a feed from the fuse box situated in the glove box that powers the cigarette lighter.

There might be DTRL wiring behind the front bumper but I just dont feel like taking it off and finding there isn't one plus the potential for CANBUSS issues.

[zippy656]

We all bow be for you,

He lives again

Welcome back

[johnb5177]

It lives...it lives........

[terranosaurusdoug]

Originally Posted by macabethiel

The Clown Loach is in fact a freshwater tropical fish originally from Borneo. They can grow quite large over the years up to 6 inches in body length. They are best kept in a Shoal I have 22 but TBH a group of 5 or 6 is fine. They are quite shy and mostly nocturnal but come out to feed in daylight.

They are very brightly marked when young but after about 5 years as they grow older they become darker. They are not aggressive but have a defensive scalpel hidden in the front side fin. If you handle one they can give you a nasty paper type cut so I take care when catching them. They sometimes lie on their side on the bottom of the tank giving the appearance of being dead. They like to sleep in groups in a pipe or tube and as they grow the Alpha Male will produce a hormone to suppress the growth of other males. To stop this regular water changes as they grow stops this occurring.

They are hardy once acclimatised but need good quality water as they have no scales being a fish with just skin like us. I used to buy young ones for around £2.50 each and after 2-3 years sell them back to a local pet store for £10 each at around 4-5 inches in size. These days I just keep them and will only sell some if they grow too large for my tank.

I no longer keep Tropical Marine fish due to cost and difficulty. Cold water salt fish are difficult as you would need a cooler to keep the water temperature stable. Some UK rock pool specimens would be more temperature tolerant. If you go for fishkeeping I always advise to start with Freshwater Tropical and after a couple of years experience with the easy to keep specimens go for a difficult species like Discus before trying Marines. That route will save you a lot of money and heartache!

Thanks, advice taken

Stunting the growth of other fish, that is a special trick, I've not heard of that before no wonder you have them, they're very a interesting fish!!

[elty001]

i am also a loach fan
had my prize clown loaches ,the biggest was just over 6" long but while away on holiday my daughter decided to turn off the mains switch to the tank at night instead of just turning the light off which turned off the filter and heater and air pump thus slowly killing them over a fortnight.
i was devastated to say the least.
i now have a few red tailed botia loaches and a in my smaller tank a few small zebra loaches.

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by elty001

i am also a loach fan
had my prize clown loaches ,the biggest was just over 6" long but while away on holiday my daughter decided to turn off the mains switch to the tank at night instead of just turning the light off which turned off the filter and heater and air pump thus slowly killing them over a fortnight.
i was devastated to say the least.
i now have a few red tailed botia loaches and a in my smaller tank a few small zebra loaches.

How dreadful you must have been well gutted.

When I go on holiday I do not feed my fish and when I return they always look healthy and the water is extra clear. I learnt the lesson when friends used to overfeed my fish thinking they were being kind.

I have a simple Ikea Plug in Timer that switches my lights on & off automatically to take advantage of Economy 7 rates. Likewise for my uV filter for Tank & Pond.

Not sure how but I have one odd Loach in the Shoal I think it's called a Skunk Loach. It seems to survive by keeping away from the Clown Loach except at feeding time.

[jims-terrano]

I used to keep tropical fish for years but got rid a long time ago, actually tempted to get some more but alas money says no for now. Wife used to love khuli loach but I hated them because they hid and went missing for months.

Anyhoo welcome back

[johnb5177]

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

I hated them because they hid and went missing for months.

Anyhoo welcome back

In a fish tank..........

[terranosaurusdoug]

Originally Posted by johnb5177

In a fish tank..........

Sea life centres got nowt on Jim

[Monaro Pete]

Welcome back oh Prodigal Son

[macabethiel]

Originally Posted by johnb5177

In a fish tank..........

Yep they hide in filters and under the gravel.
I had some they actually bred and it was two years later when stripping the tank down I discovered they were living under the under gravel filter !
When I started using power heads they would meet their demise as they were shredded by the impellor !

They are very hardy and can tollerate quite low temperatures.