2003 plate terrano Lwb with twisted chasis - Page 4

emjaybee · 03-02-2016, 16:37

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Originally Posted by samki12

Just a quick thought if I was to get the truck to a MOT station and ask them to put it through a test will this give me all the details I need of what the issues are or atleast point me in the right direction

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They will, however, if they think it is dangerous, they can also refuse to let you drive it away.

So you would then have to trailer it home.

Banshee · 03-02-2016, 17:17

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Originally Posted by emjaybee

They will, however, if they think it is dangerous, they can also refuse to let you drive it away.

So you would then have to trailer it home.

Last MOT tester I know that did that by me got a black eye and all the windows of the cars for sale on his forecourt smashed in as well a few weeks later

samki12 · 03-02-2016, 17:21

Ok well the mot station I was thinking of is literally opposite the end of my road and a 2 minute walk and they have always been reasonable with me taking failed vehicles away as they normally need the space

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Banshee · 03-02-2016, 17:25

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Originally Posted by samki12

Ok well the mot station I was thinking of is literally opposite the end of my road and a 2 minute walk and they have always been reasonable with me taking failed vehicles away as they normally need the space

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Depends how badly failed it was, if it's in danger of dropping in half on the way home they have a legal duty

samki12 · 03-02-2016, 20:51

Ok just been quoted £75 to have a recovery truck fetch from its current location to the test station so will get hold of the test station in the morning and see if I can get it booked in for a test

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Daemo · 12-02-2016, 22:55

just scrap the thing, break it and get a truck that isn't risking anyones life..
4 pages of this???

Banshee · 13-02-2016, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Daemo

just scrap the thing, break it and get a truck that isn't risking anyones life..
4 pages of this???

A tad unfair, if he's got it for the bargain basement price I think he's likely to have gotten it for then I'd have done exactly the same and come here for advice.

If it could be repaired by replacing or re fabricating parts and therefore saving another Terrano then fair play to him and I wish him the best of luck.

You could argue Elty's was a danger to life and he'd probably agree but look at the top quality workmanship and the hours of fabrication he has done to it, I'd say it's probably as safe now as when it left the factory.

That could have been one more confined to the breakers yards when we have the guys here with the knowledge and know how to get it straight again.

Roll on page 5...............

emjaybee · 13-02-2016, 16:41

I'm all for a challenge, but this has bad news written all over it. If you're not prepared to drive your wife/girlfriend/mother in it then scrap it.

Any vehicle that has had such a basterdised repair job is likely to have other safety issues.

How would any of us feel if he was driving it down the road, there was a failure of suspension/chassis and some innocent pedestrian got killed in the aftermath?

If you can live with that then have a go...

...if you can't then...

I don't like to be unsupportive of peoples efforts, but on this occasion trying to repair something of this magnitude is sheer folly.

Sorry.

Daemo · 13-02-2016, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Banshee

A tad unfair, if he's got it for the bargain basement price I think he's likely to have gotten it for then I'd have done exactly the same and come here for advice.

If it could be repaired by replacing or re fabricating parts and therefore saving another Terrano then fair play to him and I wish him the best of luck.

You could argue Elty's was a danger to life and he'd probably agree but look at the top quality workmanship and the hours of fabrication he has done to it, I'd say it's probably as safe now as when it left the factory.

That could have been one more confined to the breakers yards when we have the guys here with the knowledge and know how to get it straight again.

Roll on page 5...............

I totally agree with what you have said, however this truck needs extensive repairs to be done and possibly the chassis jigged.. Looking at the rust underneath it needs a damn good look over.. Now from what i have read it doesnt appear that samki is able to to the work himself ( i may be wrong ) but if not then this work is going to cost big and way beyond the value of the truck and thats without finding all the other problems that havent been found yet it will be a money pit. If an owner cuts corners by welding a torsion bar in place then who knows what else could break at the most inapropriate time taking someones life.. I am all for saving money and repairing stuff, ive done it all my life .... Buying a project is all good if you know what you are going to do and have a plan.. Buying a project vehicle and wont pay £10 to join the site makes me think the truck will be a budget build at best... No direspect intended in anyway...

Banshee · 13-02-2016, 23:03

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Originally Posted by Daemo

I totally agree with what you have said, however this truck needs extensive repairs to be done and possibly the chassis jigged.. Looking at the rust underneath it needs a damn good look over.. Now from what i have read it doesnt appear that samki is able to to the work himself ( i may be wrong ) but if not then this work is going to cost big and way beyond the value of the truck and thats without finding all the other problems that havent been found yet it will be a money pit. If an owner cuts corners by welding a torsion bar in place then who knows what else could break at the most inapropriate time taking someones life.. I am all for saving money and repairing stuff, ive done it all my life .... Buying a project is all good if you know what you are going to do and have a plan.. Buying a project vehicle and wont pay £10 to join the site makes me think the truck will be a budget build at best... No direspect intended in anyway...

Now you're winning me over with your viewpoint

Does look like the rot is going to be terminal to be honest

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elty001 · 14-02-2016, 00:40

From what I can make out he was putting it through the mot to get an idea of the scale of the work needed to put it right then decide from there what to do.
The rust on the underside does look fairly extensive in the pictures and I would be checking the chassis with a fine tooth comb if it was mine.
Just jumping on the post and slating him for seeking advice is hardly fair.

jims-terrano · 14-02-2016, 09:24

Sorry guys I don't want to cause offence but how's the poor bloke going to feel about his thread.
He seemed very reasonable and has concidered the condition carefully which I think is why after seeking advice he has taken it to his closest mot station.

Sami12 hope to see you back soon with an update.

Fife-bloke · 14-02-2016, 09:48

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Originally Posted by samki12

OK thanks for the advice at the end of the day I want the truck to be 100% safe if it was to go back on the road and if couldn't be made then breaking it to get another would be the next option was considering getting it to a good local garage and asking what there opinion would be.

Out of interest do these break well (is there a good demand for parts) I have broken a few cars in the past and found it difficult to shift parts due to not enough demand and to many people doing it. What sort of money could I expect for breaking it ?

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That particular model has a sought after front bumper, headlight units and the alloys will be worth a bit as well depending in condition of course. Also if the interior is rip and mark free that also may well sell quickly. Common colour as well so if the panels and door etc are fine then get it stripped.

Daemo · 14-02-2016, 10:29

To be honest all my first post meant was 4 pages and we are still talking about the same thing and nothing has moved on or been achieved.... Im out of this thread now as i dont wish to cause any offence and good luck with the project..

samki12 · 14-02-2016, 10:35

The truck will be going to a specialist next week to get a decision on what is the best action to take I understand it could break quite well and I have the facilities to break and storage for all the parts however as many of you should be aware there are getting less and less of these trucks available so if I can help keep one on the road safety and without breaking the bank then I will if it's not possible then I will break it for parts then most probably get either another terrano or a navrara with a knackered engine and swap the engine from this one

As for been able to do the work I can tackle most of it however although I can weld and would perfectly happy welding the body (floors, sills, arches, etc) I would leave the chassis to a specialist welder

As for the condition of the chassis of the truck I have given it a good look over a poke and it is reasonably solid just a lot of surface rusted which would be treated and coated in underwear if it was to return to the road sorry late reply I have been very busy at work

Shall update next week when it has been inspected

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03-02-2016, 17:21	#48
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	Ok well the mot station I was thinking of is literally opposite the end of my road and a 2 minute walk and they have always been reasonable with me taking failed vehicles away as they normally need the space Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

03-02-2016, 20:51	#50
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	Ok just been quoted £75 to have a recovery truck fetch from its current location to the test station so will get hold of the test station in the morning and see if I can get it booked in for a test Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

12-02-2016, 22:55	#51
Daemo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northamptonshire Vehicle: Patrol y61, safari y60. Posts: 466	just scrap the thing, break it and get a truck that isn't risking anyones life.. 4 pages of this???

13-02-2016, 16:41	#53
emjaybee Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oxfordshire Vehicle: 3.0Di SVE '05 5 door. Posts: 1,536	I'm all for a challenge, but this has bad news written all over it. If you're not prepared to drive your wife/girlfriend/mother in it then scrap it. Any vehicle that has had such a basterdised repair job is likely to have other safety issues. How would any of us feel if he was driving it down the road, there was a failure of suspension/chassis and some innocent pedestrian got killed in the aftermath? If you can live with that then have a go... ...if you can't then... I don't like to be unsupportive of peoples efforts, but on this occasion trying to repair something of this magnitude is sheer folly. Sorry.

14-02-2016, 00:40	#56
elty001 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aflreton,Derbyshire. Vehicle: 2000se+ 2.7tdi terrano II Posts: 6,832	From what I can make out he was putting it through the mot to get an idea of the scale of the work needed to put it right then decide from there what to do. The rust on the underside does look fairly extensive in the pictures and I would be checking the chassis with a fine tooth comb if it was mine. Just jumping on the post and slating him for seeking advice is hardly fair.

14-02-2016, 09:24	#57
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Sorry guys I don't want to cause offence but how's the poor bloke going to feel about his thread. He seemed very reasonable and has concidered the condition carefully which I think is why after seeking advice he has taken it to his closest mot station. Sami12 hope to see you back soon with an update.

14-02-2016, 10:29	#59
Daemo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Northamptonshire Vehicle: Patrol y61, safari y60. Posts: 466	To be honest all my first post meant was 4 pages and we are still talking about the same thing and nothing has moved on or been achieved.... Im out of this thread now as i dont wish to cause any offence and good luck with the project..

14-02-2016, 10:35	#60
samki12 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 45	The truck will be going to a specialist next week to get a decision on what is the best action to take I understand it could break quite well and I have the facilities to break and storage for all the parts however as many of you should be aware there are getting less and less of these trucks available so if I can help keep one on the road safety and without breaking the bank then I will if it's not possible then I will break it for parts then most probably get either another terrano or a navrara with a knackered engine and swap the engine from this one As for been able to do the work I can tackle most of it however although I can weld and would perfectly happy welding the body (floors, sills, arches, etc) I would leave the chassis to a specialist welder As for the condition of the chassis of the truck I have given it a good look over a poke and it is reasonably solid just a lot of surface rusted which would be treated and coated in underwear if it was to return to the road sorry late reply I have been very busy at work Shall update next week when it has been inspected Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk