In England since 5th Oct we have to pay 5p per carrier bag

rustic · 10-10-2015, 19:40

We recycle our old carrier bags, they get used as pedal bin liners, so now we will have to buy suitable new pedal bin liners.
So looking at the pedal bin liners, it looks like they are around 4.5p a bag...
Logic says... forget about remembering to take old carrier bags, that might fail on their third outing, and just pay 5p for the extra carrier bags.

Unless someone can find a source of cheap pedal bin liners lol....

jims-terrano · 10-10-2015, 19:46

Pete and the rest of them in wales have had to pay for them for a while now. Some poor sole tried to get me to pay for one in Tescos on Anglesey two years ago. I carried what would fit in my pockets

solarman216 · 10-10-2015, 19:53

can someone please explain to me how 5p per bag is going to stop bags getting into the sea and strangling turtles etc, looks like another crap government idea to extract money from all, Rick

don simon · 10-10-2015, 20:25

In answer to the first question, it's not about the cost of the bag. It's about the cost of the bag to the environment.
Secondly, the cost of the 4,5p bag goes straight back into the company that sold you the bag, the 5p charge goes to charity, and by god this country needs charitable donations.
Thirdly, there was a dramatic reduction and change of mind set in, the mighty, Wales http://www.theguardian.com/environme...-charges-began.
It's not hard getting and taking a bag to the supermarket, or using a box at Lidl/Aldi (they have pleny around the store).
My concern is what damage the bag for life does to the environment.

johnb5177 · 10-10-2015, 21:25

I'm concerned that I read that the retailers are not obliged to pass on the money to charities, so they could just keep it and contribute to profit......

rustic · 10-10-2015, 21:57

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Originally Posted by don simon

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My concern is what damage the bag for life does to the environment.

A friend of mine bought one of those "Bags for Life" just before it ripped open.... it slashed his wrist....

We have a few of those blue Tesco bags, I fitted them with a ply or MDF bottom, and they are used for the groceries, packing clothes to go away to say travel lodges or our daughters, used for boating items, those bags are generally rectangular, and with a firm base, can hold a lot of stuff.

quixote · 10-10-2015, 22:01

I think it's a great idea. I currently have £3459.65 in assets in the cupboard underneath my kitchen sink

makeitfit · 10-10-2015, 22:51

I've never paid 5p for a plastic bag as far as I can remember.
Neither do I use a plastic liner in my bin. Why would you need one ? There should be nothing in there to make the plastic bin dirty

We recycle virtually everthing. The only mucky stuff is a bit of food waste and that goes in the compost bin. Again no liner

I guess it's all to do with changing the attitudes of feckwits who think it's fine to lob out their bloody MacDonalds wrappers etc as soon as they've carbed up

We have bins on the beach that twat grockles still can't work out what they're fookin' for

Ah well , every little helps

rant over.

solarman216 · 10-10-2015, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by don simon

In answer to the first question, it's not about the cost of the bag. It's about the cost of the bag to the environment.
Secondly, the cost of the 4,5p bag goes straight back into the company that sold you the bag, the 5p charge goes to charity, and by god this country needs charitable donations.
Thirdly, there was a dramatic reduction and change of mind set in, the mighty, Wales http://www.theguardian.com/environme...-charges-began.
It's not hard getting and taking a bag to the supermarket, or using a box at Lidl/Aldi (they have pleny around the store).
My concern is what damage the bag for life does to the environment.

I do not believe for one minute that any of it goes to charity, you are being conned, Rick

don simon · 11-10-2015, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarman216

I do not believe for one minute that any of it goes to charity, you are being conned, Rick

That's a tad cynical Rick, I suppose the best policy is to buy a bag for life, I currently use an IKEA blue bag. Far fewer of them in the oceans than plastic bags.

harlowmaverick · 11-10-2015, 07:34

I don't buy plastic bags, I have a free source of them!
The wife pays for the shopping and bring these bags home with her!!!
Take a leaf outta my book lads, send her indoors shopping on her own

rustic · 11-10-2015, 07:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarman216

I do not believe for one minute that any of it goes to charity, you are being conned, Rick

If we happen to find ourselves buying a bag, then it's worth asking them which charity the money is going to, if they don't know, then get them to ask a supervisor, after all, it's your money.

We give a lot to charity in one form or another, and it's our choice where the money goes, but if some places give money to charities that just line pockets of fat cats then we would think again.

Rustic

jims-terrano · 11-10-2015, 08:12

Got to say this forum has excelled it's self again, some great views and comments. Like Pete I recycle as much as I can but have to admit I do think a bin liner is essential as the bin does get mucky if noy yucky with some of the waste. Is the key there waste? Are we wasting the wrong things perhaps. Makes you think doesn't it.
To be honest doubt a supermarket could or would tell you what charity any money goes to but like others I think it'll go into their coffers so they can pay the "living wage" not!
I also think the worst people for wasting things will still paf for ten or so carrier bags each weekly shop. After all people don't seem to value money these days. Proof if needed walk past your local shops and see how many coppers and 5p coins are just discarded on the pavement.

Personally I think as time goes by people will accept they pay 5p for a bag and not think about it. Then the waste continues.

Pete totally agree why can't some people use bins, upsets me when I see rubbish dumped anywhere.

emjaybee · 11-10-2015, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Pete totally agree why can't some people use bins, upsets me when I see rubbish dumped anywhere.

We live on a road that is a Big Mac and fries away from the McDonald's in Banbury.

rustic · 11-10-2015, 09:19

Here's an odd one... on Tuesday this week is our bin day, we were a bit late bringing the bin up the drive, but when I did, I always look inside to check that they had emptied it fully...

There was a McDonalds takeaway bag in there, and an empty carlsberg lager can

not leftover from our litter I can assure you. I guess it could have been worse, there could have been a Land Rover magazine in there too.

I can only guess that one of our locals in the village, on their daily walk had found it and placed it in our bin as they passed. Quite a lot of people in the village do this.
If so, well done.

Another piece of litter kept off our street.

My daughter does this too whilst out with the push chair.
Maybe we should all take this attitude.

10-10-2015, 19:40	#1
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	In England since 5th Oct we have to pay 5p per carrier bag We recycle our old carrier bags, they get used as pedal bin liners, so now we will have to buy suitable new pedal bin liners. So looking at the pedal bin liners, it looks like they are around 4.5p a bag... Logic says... forget about remembering to take old carrier bags, that might fail on their third outing, and just pay 5p for the extra carrier bags. Unless someone can find a source of cheap pedal bin liners lol.... __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

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solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	can someone please explain to me how 5p per bag is going to stop bags getting into the sea and strangling turtles etc, looks like another crap government idea to extract money from all, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

11-10-2015, 09:19	#15
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	Here's an odd one... on Tuesday this week is our bin day, we were a bit late bringing the bin up the drive, but when I did, I always look inside to check that they had emptied it fully... There was a McDonalds takeaway bag in there, and an empty carlsberg lager can not leftover from our litter I can assure you. I guess it could have been worse, there could have been a Land Rover magazine in there too. I can only guess that one of our locals in the village, on their daily walk had found it and placed it in our bin as they passed. Quite a lot of people in the village do this. If so, well done. Another piece of litter kept off our street. My daughter does this too whilst out with the push chair. Maybe we should all take this attitude. __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

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10-10-2015, 19:46	#2
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Pete and the rest of them in wales have had to pay for them for a while now. Some poor sole tried to get me to pay for one in Tescos on Anglesey two years ago. I carried what would fit in my pockets

10-10-2015, 20:25	#4
don simon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Gone. Vehicle: Terrano ii Posts: 2,215	In answer to the first question, it's not about the cost of the bag. It's about the cost of the bag to the environment. Secondly, the cost of the 4,5p bag goes straight back into the company that sold you the bag, the 5p charge goes to charity, and by god this country needs charitable donations. Thirdly, there was a dramatic reduction and change of mind set in, the mighty, Wales http://www.theguardian.com/environme...-charges-began. It's not hard getting and taking a bag to the supermarket, or using a box at Lidl/Aldi (they have pleny around the store). My concern is what damage the bag for life does to the environment.

10-10-2015, 21:25	#5
johnb5177 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Swansea, S.Wales Vehicle: 02Terrano II 3.0 SVE Auto Posts: 1,586	I'm concerned that I read that the retailers are not obliged to pass on the money to charities, so they could just keep it and contribute to profit......

10-10-2015, 22:01	#7
quixote Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Near Dundee, Scotland Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 3.0 Posts: 482	I think it's a great idea. I currently have £3459.65 in assets in the cupboard underneath my kitchen sink

10-10-2015, 22:51	#8
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	I've never paid 5p for a plastic bag as far as I can remember. Neither do I use a plastic liner in my bin. Why would you need one ? There should be nothing in there to make the plastic bin dirty We recycle virtually everthing. The only mucky stuff is a bit of food waste and that goes in the compost bin. Again no liner I guess it's all to do with changing the attitudes of feckwits who think it's fine to lob out their bloody MacDonalds wrappers etc as soon as they've carbed up We have bins on the beach that twat grockles still can't work out what they're fookin' for Ah well , every little helps rant over.

11-10-2015, 07:34	#11
harlowmaverick Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Harlow, Essex Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 3.0 tdi 03 Posts: 962	I don't buy plastic bags, I have a free source of them! The wife pays for the shopping and bring these bags home with her!!! Take a leaf outta my book lads, send her indoors shopping on her own

11-10-2015, 08:12	#13
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Got to say this forum has excelled it's self again, some great views and comments. Like Pete I recycle as much as I can but have to admit I do think a bin liner is essential as the bin does get mucky if noy yucky with some of the waste. Is the key there waste? Are we wasting the wrong things perhaps. Makes you think doesn't it. To be honest doubt a supermarket could or would tell you what charity any money goes to but like others I think it'll go into their coffers so they can pay the "living wage" not! I also think the worst people for wasting things will still paf for ten or so carrier bags each weekly shop. After all people don't seem to value money these days. Proof if needed walk past your local shops and see how many coppers and 5p coins are just discarded on the pavement. Personally I think as time goes by people will accept they pay 5p for a bag and not think about it. Then the waste continues. Pete totally agree why can't some people use bins, upsets me when I see rubbish dumped anywhere.