Don't buy this steering kit!!! - Page 2

AlexD333 · 09-02-2015, 21:09

Ok slight update, he has messaged asking for the reg of my terrano.

It's a start.

makeitfit · 09-02-2015, 21:47

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Originally Posted by AlexD333

It's a start.

That should have been the beginning surely

Good luck

solarman216 · 09-02-2015, 22:09

Still does not explain tho Pete why the 3 parts supplied did not fit each other, Rick

makeitfit · 09-02-2015, 22:14

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Originally Posted by solarman216

Still does not explain tho Pete why the 3 parts supplied did not fit each other, Rick

Indeed . The guy is no doubt sourcing the components and making the kit package. I bet he doesn't know one drag link from another or that there are diff tapers.
I found with fleabay the more info you give them the less chance they have to wriggle out of sorting things

elty001 · 10-02-2015, 00:02

I always take pictures and send it to the seller as proof they supplied the wrong parts.
Harder for them to try and get out of it.
From what I have read is it the track rod ends that don't fit the Draglink.
If so then he is most definitely in the wrong as the parts he supplied are not compatible.

AlexD333 · 10-02-2015, 00:04

Just to show you how close they are, you would not tell until it's all bolted together

AlexD333 · 10-02-2015, 00:07

Yes definately non compatible, could be either part at fault though, too big a hole in the drag link or too small a taper in the tie rods

makeitfit · 10-02-2015, 00:14

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Originally Posted by AlexD333

Yes definately non compatible, could be either part at fault though, too big a hole in the drag link or too small a taper in the tie rods

Yerp, that's a D21 draglink.

solarman216 · 10-02-2015, 00:15

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Originally Posted by elty001

I always take pictures and send it to the seller as proof they supplied the wrong parts.
Harder for them to try and get out of it.
From what I have read is it the track rod ends that don't fit the Draglink.
If so then he is most definitely in the wrong as the parts he supplied are not compatible.

top marks there elty, but it is more than that, the track rod ends do not have anything like the same amount of up down movement of the originals so at full droop even with stops fitted the balls would have been strained well beyond their limit resulting in the likelihood of the ball being forced out, with potentially disastrous consequences, as soon as I discovered the problem there was no way I would allow Alex to drive it, had we done it on the ground with suspension at normal levels even I could have missed it, but maybe not as I knew adding washers was not right, but towards the end of the day looking forward to my pub steak who knows, Rick

makeitfit · 10-02-2015, 00:40

Rick do you think there would have been enough droop available if the taper wasn't stuffed right up the drag link's slot, oo er missus

I mean if the correct taper was in the drag link , the ball shoulder wouldn't be so close to the drag link casting.
If that is possible then it goes back to the drag link itself as the problem and not the tie rods.

AlexD333 · 10-02-2015, 07:17

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

Rick do you think there would have been enough droop available if the taper wasn't stuffed right up the drag link's slot, oo er missus

I mean if the correct taper was in the drag link , the ball shoulder wouldn't be so close to the drag link casting.
If that is possible then it goes back to the drag link itself as the problem and not the tie rods.

I don't see how you are supposed to know which, one is certainly mis sized.

We did breifly try the old tie rods with the new drag link, that did not work, can't remember why

bry · 10-02-2015, 10:07

I bought my steering relay arm and tie rod ends,and idler arm all together from Milners a couple of years ago.All fitted as they should Apart from the idler arm (bolt holes didn't line up).I made my order over the phone . Obviously not as easy to chat on the phone when ordering from auction sites.If you have to send these back,be sure that you don't incur any return costs.

solarman216 · 10-02-2015, 11:53

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

Rick do you think there would have been enough droop available if the taper wasn't stuffed right up the drag link's slot, oo er missus

I mean if the correct taper was in the drag link , the ball shoulder wouldn't be so close to the drag link casting.
If that is possible then it goes back to the drag link itself as the problem and not the tie rods.

Not the case Pete as once I realised what the problem was I had the taper in the drag link loose when I tested this and the tie rod would go no where near the axle, true to say the rubber boots on these were very thick and hard, but I pulled down as hard as I could and no joy, Rick

makeitfit · 10-02-2015, 11:58

Blimey, sounds like a proper miss match

Refund and Milners I reckon then

AlexD333 · 10-02-2015, 14:20

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

Blimey, sounds like a proper miss match

Refund and Milners I reckon then

+1 on this

waiting for my refund with collection

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09-02-2015, 21:09	#16
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Ok slight update, he has messaged asking for the reg of my terrano. It's a start.

10-02-2015, 00:02	#20
elty001 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Aflreton,Derbyshire. Vehicle: 2000se+ 2.7tdi terrano II Posts: 6,832	I always take pictures and send it to the seller as proof they supplied the wrong parts. Harder for them to try and get out of it. From what I have read is it the track rod ends that don't fit the Draglink. If so then he is most definitely in the wrong as the parts he supplied are not compatible.

10-02-2015, 00:07	#22
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Yes definately non compatible, could be either part at fault though, too big a hole in the drag link or too small a taper in the tie rods

10-02-2015, 00:40	#25
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Rick do you think there would have been enough droop available if the taper wasn't stuffed right up the drag link's slot, oo er missus I mean if the correct taper was in the drag link , the ball shoulder wouldn't be so close to the drag link casting. If that is possible then it goes back to the drag link itself as the problem and not the tie rods.

10-02-2015, 10:07	#27
bry Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: South Yorkshire.. Vehicle: Nissan Terrano MK 2 SE Posts: 1,757	I bought my steering relay arm and tie rod ends,and idler arm all together from Milners a couple of years ago.All fitted as they should Apart from the idler arm (bolt holes didn't line up).I made my order over the phone . Obviously not as easy to chat on the phone when ordering from auction sites.If you have to send these back,be sure that you don't incur any return costs.

10-02-2015, 11:58	#29
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	Blimey, sounds like a proper miss match Refund and Milners I reckon then