Where is peak torque

ballo1000 · 04-10-2014, 13:57

Afternoon, I have been driving the Maverick for a week or so now and just had a query. On my drive to work I travel along the A614 from Nottingham to Worksop, it's slightly hilly in places but 50 mph the whole way. On all the hills she doesn't have enough power to maintain speed and I have to drop into 4th at times. She pulls smoothly with no missing or juddering, so my query is, is 50 mph just below the torque curve, hence lack of power.

Thanks in advance

Sweety · 04-10-2014, 15:12

Max torque is at 1800-2000rmp IIRC my old T2 used to struggle badly on hills but once changed the MAF it flew up them

jims-terrano · 04-10-2014, 15:14

I thought it was in Derbyshire?

AlexD333 · 04-10-2014, 15:59

Yes I think it sounds like a dying maf sensor. I would replace it, don't buy a cheapie as we had a few problems with those

terrano bob · 04-10-2014, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

I thought it was in Derbyshire?

elty001 · 04-10-2014, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrano bob

You beat me to it

solarman216 · 04-10-2014, 17:39

Bosch or Zexell pump, the mafs are different, you can clean the Zexell one (Hitachi) but not the bosch, also have you checked the mini filter in the pump banjo? I have Zexell and will be doing mine tomorrow, Rick

terrano bob · 04-10-2014, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by elty001

You beat me to it

and me

ballo1000 · 04-10-2014, 18:11

Thanks, I did wonder as she seems slower then my old 300tdi disco. I will get a new maf ordered, where is the best place to order one from? I will clean the banjo and replace the fuel filter any way, just so I know they're done.

ballo1000 · 04-10-2014, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

I thought it was in Derbyshire?

I had to double check then lol but definitely the A614.

Mobieus_uk · 05-10-2014, 18:49

before you write off your MAF have you tested it

a simple test is disconnect it and see if it makes a difference, on my terrano when disconnected the revs dont go above 2000ish rpm, if this happens then the maf is doing something

things to check

1..clean the maf, a dirty maf can cause problems
2..check all the duct pipework betweeen the maf and the turbo, if any air is being dragged in after the maf this can confuse the engine managent, if you dont know what MAF does it measures the amount of air going into the engine so any extras can confuse the engine
3.. checking the output of the MAF with a voltmeter is easy to do and the information is easy to find

it may still turn out to be the MAF but everything above is free to check and you don't want to spend out on MAF and find out the expensive way cos if the the problem is still there all you managed to proove was that your old MAF was ok

Banshee · 05-10-2014, 19:24

If it's the Hitachi then give it a clan as per my workshop download

http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/d...kshop/wk48.pdf

supergnome · 05-10-2014, 19:45

Being from Worksop I know your journey well. If you need a good garage there I can recommend one. David.

ballo1000 · 05-10-2014, 21:40

Cheers, I know Macs garage there but that's it

AlexD333 · 05-10-2014, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobieus_uk

before you write off your MAF have you tested it

a simple test is disconnect it and see if it makes a difference, on my terrano when disconnected the revs dont go above 2000ish rpm, if this happens then the maf is doing something

things to check

1..clean the maf, a dirty maf can cause problems
2..check all the duct pipework betweeen the maf and the turbo, if any air is being dragged in after the maf this can confuse the engine managent, if you dont know what MAF does it measures the amount of air going into the engine so any extras can confuse the engine
3.. checking the output of the MAF with a voltmeter is easy to do and the information is easy to find

it may still turn out to be the MAF but everything above is free to check and you don't want to spend out on MAF and find out the expensive way cos if the the problem is still there all you managed to proove was that your old MAF was ok

Be careful cleaning the maf, as we cleaned mine today, made it much worse

04-10-2014, 13:57	#1
ballo1000 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 70	Where is peak torque Afternoon, I have been driving the Maverick for a week or so now and just had a query. On my drive to work I travel along the A614 from Nottingham to Worksop, it's slightly hilly in places but 50 mph the whole way. On all the hills she doesn't have enough power to maintain speed and I have to drop into 4th at times. She pulls smoothly with no missing or juddering, so my query is, is 50 mph just below the torque curve, hence lack of power. Thanks in advance

04-10-2014, 17:39	#7
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,430	Bosch or Zexell pump, the mafs are different, you can clean the Zexell one (Hitachi) but not the bosch, also have you checked the mini filter in the pump banjo? I have Zexell and will be doing mine tomorrow, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

05-10-2014, 19:24	#12
Banshee Moderator Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West Midlands Vehicle: 04 2.7 SWB Terrano II Van Posts: 13,526	If it's the Hitachi then give it a clan as per my workshop download http://www.nissan4x4ownersclub.com/d...kshop/wk48.pdf __________________ Moderator 04' Terrano II SE 2.7 TDi SWB Commercial in Silver - Project Thread Toyo Open Country M/T 33's on 10J Steels, Super Strong Steering Job Navara D22 Snorkel, Front LOKKA, Maunal Hubs, EGR Blank TunitII ECU Chip, 3" Body Lift, 2" Suss Lift, Heat Exchanger Black Interior, 3.0 Borg&Beck Clutch, Eckes Heated Fuel Filter 99' Y61 Patrol GR SE 2.8 TD6 LWB in Blue/Silver - Project Thread Engine Transplant - In Progress!!!

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04-10-2014, 15:12	#2
Sweety Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Northumberland Vehicle: Terrano 2.7TDI SE LWB Posts: 3,604	Max torque is at 1800-2000rmp IIRC my old T2 used to struggle badly on hills but once changed the MAF it flew up them

04-10-2014, 15:14	#3
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	I thought it was in Derbyshire?

04-10-2014, 15:59	#4
AlexD333 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Uk Vehicle: 2004 Terrano 2.7 TDI Posts: 7,847	Yes I think it sounds like a dying maf sensor. I would replace it, don't buy a cheapie as we had a few problems with those

04-10-2014, 18:11	#9
ballo1000 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 70	Thanks, I did wonder as she seems slower then my old 300tdi disco. I will get a new maf ordered, where is the best place to order one from? I will clean the banjo and replace the fuel filter any way, just so I know they're done.

05-10-2014, 18:49	#11
Mobieus_uk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Tonbridge Vehicle: Terrano ii SE+2.7tdi Posts: 232	before you write off your MAF have you tested it a simple test is disconnect it and see if it makes a difference, on my terrano when disconnected the revs dont go above 2000ish rpm, if this happens then the maf is doing something things to check 1..clean the maf, a dirty maf can cause problems 2..check all the duct pipework betweeen the maf and the turbo, if any air is being dragged in after the maf this can confuse the engine managent, if you dont know what MAF does it measures the amount of air going into the engine so any extras can confuse the engine 3.. checking the output of the MAF with a voltmeter is easy to do and the information is easy to find it may still turn out to be the MAF but everything above is free to check and you don't want to spend out on MAF and find out the expensive way cos if the the problem is still there all you managed to proove was that your old MAF was ok

05-10-2014, 19:45	#13
supergnome Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Isle of Axholme Vehicle: T2, 2.7 TDI 2002 lwb Posts: 955	Being from Worksop I know your journey well. If you need a good garage there I can recommend one. David.

05-10-2014, 21:40	#14
ballo1000 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 70	Cheers, I know Macs garage there but that's it