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Old 07-08-2014, 20:00   #31
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Not if they were 35's 37's or 38's

You gotta think further ahead boy

the bigga picture.....

come to think of it the bigga everything

Troll... Troll... Troll... Troll...
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Old 07-08-2014, 20:02   #32
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I'm glad you mention as for the last 5 hours that's all ive been thinking of.
Now theoretically any engine can be put into any car.

Has anyone got dimensions of a y60 bonnet area?

If this is remotely doable I will be saving for it.

I love my terrano to bits it's an amazing vehicle, had I known the 4.2 was gear driven ne runs on veg I must admit I prob would have got that, although I did not know about veg at the time.

How difficult would the transplant be? Engine, ecu, loom is a must, what about drive?
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Old 07-08-2014, 20:23   #33
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ECU's not on a 4.2D that I'm aware of you need to connect the Startermotor, fuel soleniod and feed and return fuel pipes. Oh and the waterpipes. Oh and throttle cable think thats it
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Old 07-08-2014, 20:28   #34
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ECU's not on a 4.2D that I'm aware of you need to connect the Startermotor, fuel soleniod and feed and return fuel pipes. Oh and the waterpipes. Oh and throttle cable think thats it
Your kidding right?

No engine electronics...

I guess the tricky bit would be connecting to driveshaft n gearbox no?

C'mon spur me on and I'll get it done
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Old 07-08-2014, 20:29   #35
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I'm glad you mention as for the last 5 hours that's all ive been thinking of.
Now theoretically any engine can be put into any car.

Has anyone got dimensions of a y60 bonnet area?

If this is remotely doable I will be saving for it.

I love my terrano to bits it's an amazing vehicle, had I known the 4.2 was gear driven ne runs on veg I must admit I prob would have got that, although I did not know about veg at the time.

How difficult would the transplant be? Engine, ecu, loom is a must, what about drive?
I have fitted a Rover V8 to a mk2 Capri - that was the best
my morris minor had a marina 1300 TC engine bolted straight onto the 850 box.

Fitted a Essex 3.0l v6 and ford auto box to a Mk1 nissan bluebird auto

My Mini traveller got a fibreglass front end and an MG1300cc engine onto the 1000cc box

every thing is possible... it's the ammount of time effort and money that is involved that is the problem
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Old 07-08-2014, 20:49   #36
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I have fitted a Rover V8 to a mk2 Capri - that was the best
my morris minor had a marina 1300 TC engine bolted straight onto the 850 box.

Fitted a Essex 3.0l v6 and ford auto box to a Mk1 nissan bluebird auto

My Mini traveller got a fibreglass front end and an MG1300cc engine onto the 1000cc box

every thing is possible... it's the ammount of time effort and money that is involved that is the problem
So your the man the hassle then

*scribbles patrolman on his engine conversion list*
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Old 07-08-2014, 22:18   #37
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You could fit a Troll engine to a terrano...... then upgrade the Terrano body and chassis to a Troll body and chassis... Then You have what you secretly want......

A Troll... Troll... Troll... Troll... Troll... Troll...
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Old 07-08-2014, 22:23   #38
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You could fit a Troll engine to a terrano...... then upgrade the Terrano body and chassis to a Troll body and chassis... Then You have what you secretly want......

A Troll... Troll... Troll... Troll... Troll... Troll...
As much as I would love a troll I am definately sticking with my terrano.

Do you suspect it is a massive job to carry out an engine transplant?

Bit of a grey area I can imagine
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Old 07-08-2014, 23:34   #39
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That is why most of the "Big" trucks are not road legal, as the wheels have to come outside the body. This is not only because of the wheel arches, but also for stability, and to get the angles on the drive shafts down a bit.

Most are on custom built space frame chassis, not your proper ladder chassis like we have.

Power can always be increased by reducing the gearbox ratios and Diff ratios, but again at a cost, and increased wear and tear on all the CV and UJ joints.
excuse me! I'm getting there
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Old 07-08-2014, 23:53   #40
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Alex mate, the enthusiasm is great but lets just think sensibly, for once ...


First, power to weight ratio isn't gonna be spectacular. BHP of the 4.2 turbo is less than the 3.0TDi - which is already available in the Terrano.

The 4.2's characteristic, the one that would make me swap my 3.0TDi for a 4.2 non turbo in an instant, is its reputation for having massive amounts of low down torque, from what I've heard, enough to tow a big fully loaded twin axle trailer up a hill at idle, along with the weight of the troll



Second, the Trol bonnet is BIG. Both the Y60 and Y61 Trol bonnets were designed to fit a 6cyl engine (4.2 & 2.8 are both 6 pot). Look at this pic from the Wales weekend, you can see the difference in bonnet length between Fez's Mav and my Trol (at least I can ).



The 3.0 is a 4cyl so there is space in the engine bay that they (partly) fill with a longer fan shroud.


Third, as Patrolman said, think about the time, effort and money to make the engine/gearbox etc fit together. I know the 4.2 can slot straight into a 3.0 Trol but that's purely because they just moved a couple of engine mounts to fit the 3.0. You have to do a bit more if fitting the 4.2 into a 2.8 Trol.



If you really want a 4.2 diesel, just buy a Trol for crying out loud and get the cracking engine AND the front live axle
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Old 08-08-2014, 06:27   #41
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Alex mate, the enthusiasm is great but lets just think sensibly, for once ...


First, power to weight ratio isn't gonna be spectacular. BHP of the 4.2 turbo is less than the 3.0TDi - which is already available in the Terrano.

The 4.2's characteristic, the one that would make me swap my 3.0TDi for a 4.2 non turbo in an instant, is its reputation for having massive amounts of low down torque, from what I've heard, enough to tow a big fully loaded twin axle trailer up a hill at idle, along with the weight of the troll



Second, the Trol bonnet is BIG. Both the Y60 and Y61 Trol bonnets were designed to fit a 6cyl engine (4.2 & 2.8 are both 6 pot). Look at this pic from the Wales weekend, you can see the difference in bonnet length between Fez's Mav and my Trol (at least I can ).



The 3.0 is a 4cyl so there is space in the engine bay that they (partly) fill with a longer fan shroud.


Third, as Patrolman said, think about the time, effort and money to make the engine/gearbox etc fit together. I know the 4.2 can slot straight into a 3.0 Trol but that's purely because they just moved a couple of engine mounts to fit the 3.0. You have to do a bit more if fitting the 4.2 into a 2.8 Trol.



If you really want a 4.2 diesel, just buy a Trol for crying out loud and get the cracking engine AND the front live axle
Yeah fair play, it seems like it's not really doable. And looking at that pic too... There is a bit of difference in size

I'll get one in the future though
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Old 08-08-2014, 06:34   #42
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Alex mate, the enthusiasm is great but lets just think sensibly, for once ...


First, power to weight ratio isn't gonna be spectacular. BHP of the 4.2 turbo is less than the 3.0TDi - which is already available in the Terrano.

The 4.2's characteristic, the one that would make me swap my 3.0TDi for a 4.2 non turbo in an instant, is its reputation for having massive amounts of low down torque, from what I've heard, enough to tow a big fully loaded twin axle trailer up a hill at idle, along with the weight of the troll



Second, the Trol bonnet is BIG. Both the Y60 and Y61 Trol bonnets were designed to fit a 6cyl engine (4.2 & 2.8 are both 6 pot). Look at this pic from the Wales weekend, you can see the difference in bonnet length between Fez's Mav and my Trol (at least I can ).



The 3.0 is a 4cyl so there is space in the engine bay that they (partly) fill with a longer fan shroud.


Third, as Patrolman said, think about the time, effort and money to make the engine/gearbox etc fit together. I know the 4.2 can slot straight into a 3.0 Trol but that's purely because they just moved a couple of engine mounts to fit the 3.0. You have to do a bit more if fitting the 4.2 into a 2.8 Trol.



If you really want a 4.2 diesel, just buy a Trol for crying out loud and get the cracking engine AND the front live axle
you are better off with the bell housing from a /rd28 patrol and engine from a nissan skyline as they run the same transmission, then you only have to worry about the engine mounts.....
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:14   #43
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you are better off with the bell housing from a /rd28 patrol and engine from a nissan skyline as they run the same transmission, then you only have to worry about the engine mounts.....
Skyline would have the torque?

and run on veggie?

Still a bit far fetched me thinks, ill jut maf amp it n hope for the best
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:54   #44
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Skyline would have the torque?

and run on veggie?

Still a bit far fetched me thinks, ill jut maf amp it n hope for the best
It's petrol
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:05   #45
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talking of engine swaps, this guy has put a Mitsubishi evo engine in his pajero!

top one:

http://www.filspajerosltd.com/for-sale.html
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