Terrano Diesel Pump - Page 2

rayf3262 · 03-01-2014, 19:18

Not sure exactly how relevant this is but,... from the difflock forum re LR 300Tdi which uses same VE type IP:

could alos be a non edc, 3 wire version.
Land rover used this on later 300tdi to stop them being so simple to steal. when my imobiliser messed up, i removed the black box with the 3 wires going into it with a chisel. behind all that is the normal stop solinoid with 1 wire which i ran a ignition live to

Thread is here:
http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic....ed5f1d8b31d733

thecrazycabbage · 03-01-2014, 20:22

Sounds kinda easy to bypass.

I shall report back when i have more info then!

=)

davenclaire · 05-01-2014, 23:39

i new i read something on the web about this as i originally thought the 3 pin unit on the side goes to the internal temp sensor and egr control it also has a direct effect on timeing some how, the temp sensor is replacable here is a photo of it
says i cant attach it again have a look on my post leaky injection pump you can see the temp sensor where i have removed the top cover

davenclaire · 06-01-2014, 00:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyxZ0sfPbB4

this clearly shows the fuel temp sensor that i think is causing your problem its right at the end of the clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTJHR9IZ2SM

or an even better view and discription

thecrazycabbage · 06-01-2014, 00:55

I appreciate your input, but the part th e dealers were referring to is on the outside of the case, has 3 wires to it, and is held on by sheer bolts, bolts whose head snaps off when you get them tight, pretty permanent anti tamper.

Gunna see if they can get the pump off if I can pick it up and see whaats under that cover.....pics when I get them!

davenclaire · 06-01-2014, 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecrazycabbage

I appreciate your input, but the part th e dealers were referring to is on the outside of the case, has 3 wires to it, and is held on by sheer bolts, bolts whose head snaps off when you get them tight, pretty permanent anti tamper.

Gunna see if they can get the pump off if I can pick it up and see whaats under that cover.....pics when I get them!

i will pull it off tomorrow from the scrap pump iv get here and let you know

thecrazycabbage · 06-01-2014, 08:03

The black plastic thing? Awesome! Try not to splatter it too much, I may need whatever it is!

davenclaire · 06-01-2014, 16:01

ok have taken off the black plastic cover with the wires attached and as i thought as this pump is for the TDI its just the electrical connections for the electronic acuator/throttle and cold start sensor.

infact the 3 wires on there own are the stop solenoid wire, fuel pressure sensor and something else yet to work out what so this pump i have is no good for you as its the TD

im still at a loss im sure all you have on yours is pressure sensor, cold start, shut off solenoid and something that goes to the EGR?

look on page 320 EC section of the manual it shows the pump for the tdi but clearly shows the injection timeing control valve and stop solenoid the only other wire you should have on yours is the cold temp sensor

strange i cant find the td pump in the downloaded manual

davenclaire · 06-01-2014, 16:10

search and ye shall find

http://himama.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/1591

some very good photos here you can clearly see every bit of the injection pump and associated parts it looks like the part they are saying is faulty is the speed controller/actuator if this is the same as your pump then its easy to change if you can get hold of a scrap pump

thecrazycabbage · 06-01-2014, 20:53

http://himama.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/1591/10901

It appears to be the plastic thing on the bottom of that pic, if its the part im lead to believe.

No idea what it does, however, it looks important, so i'll try to stop the stealers breaking it off tomorrow!

03-01-2014, 19:18	#16
rayf3262 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norfolk, Poringland NR14 Vehicle: Terrano 3.0 SVE 2002 Posts: 1,549	Not sure exactly how relevant this is but,... from the difflock forum re LR 300Tdi which uses same VE type IP: could alos be a non edc, 3 wire version. Land rover used this on later 300tdi to stop them being so simple to steal. when my imobiliser messed up, i removed the black box with the 3 wires going into it with a chisel. behind all that is the normal stop solinoid with 1 wire which i ran a ignition live to Thread is here: http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic....ed5f1d8b31d733 __________________ Remember what the dormouse said: Feed your head....

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03-01-2014, 20:22	#17
thecrazycabbage Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II Posts: 83	Sounds kinda easy to bypass. I shall report back when i have more info then! =)

05-01-2014, 23:39	#18
davenclaire Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: south east Vehicle: terrano 2 lwb Posts: 816	i new i read something on the web about this as i originally thought the 3 pin unit on the side goes to the internal temp sensor and egr control it also has a direct effect on timeing some how, the temp sensor is replacable here is a photo of it says i cant attach it again have a look on my post leaky injection pump you can see the temp sensor where i have removed the top cover

06-01-2014, 00:00	#19
davenclaire Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: south east Vehicle: terrano 2 lwb Posts: 816	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyxZ0sfPbB4 this clearly shows the fuel temp sensor that i think is causing your problem its right at the end of the clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTJHR9IZ2SM or an even better view and discription

06-01-2014, 00:55	#20
thecrazycabbage Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II Posts: 83	I appreciate your input, but the part th e dealers were referring to is on the outside of the case, has 3 wires to it, and is held on by sheer bolts, bolts whose head snaps off when you get them tight, pretty permanent anti tamper. Gunna see if they can get the pump off if I can pick it up and see whaats under that cover.....pics when I get them!

06-01-2014, 08:03	#22
thecrazycabbage Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II Posts: 83	The black plastic thing? Awesome! Try not to splatter it too much, I may need whatever it is!

06-01-2014, 16:01	#23
davenclaire Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: south east Vehicle: terrano 2 lwb Posts: 816	ok have taken off the black plastic cover with the wires attached and as i thought as this pump is for the TDI its just the electrical connections for the electronic acuator/throttle and cold start sensor. infact the 3 wires on there own are the stop solenoid wire, fuel pressure sensor and something else yet to work out what so this pump i have is no good for you as its the TD im still at a loss im sure all you have on yours is pressure sensor, cold start, shut off solenoid and something that goes to the EGR? look on page 320 EC section of the manual it shows the pump for the tdi but clearly shows the injection timeing control valve and stop solenoid the only other wire you should have on yours is the cold temp sensor strange i cant find the td pump in the downloaded manual

06-01-2014, 16:10	#24
davenclaire Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: south east Vehicle: terrano 2 lwb Posts: 816	search and ye shall find http://himama.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/1591 some very good photos here you can clearly see every bit of the injection pump and associated parts it looks like the part they are saying is faulty is the speed controller/actuator if this is the same as your pump then its easy to change if you can get hold of a scrap pump

06-01-2014, 20:53	#25
thecrazycabbage Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Vehicle: Terrano II Posts: 83	http://himama.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/1591/10901 It appears to be the plastic thing on the bottom of that pic, if its the part im lead to believe. No idea what it does, however, it looks important, so i'll try to stop the stealers breaking it off tomorrow!