A small victory

[spautoparts]

Also forgot to mention. There is no such thing as a tv detector van and never has been. This is just another scare tactic by your wonderful government.
Do you know anyone who has ever seen one or worked in one.

[Lazy-Ferret]

Originally Posted by spautoparts

Also forgot to mention. There is no such thing as a tv detector van and never has been. This is just another scare tactic by your wonderful government.
Do you know anyone who has ever seen one or worked in one.

That is actually untrue... Yes, there were many ghost detector vans, as the technology was very expensive, so it was cheaper to scare people into buying their licence, but there were also several real ones... They use a highly amplified and filtered DF loop, to pick up the IF frequency of the TV set, and by driving round, and taking a couple of readings, they can actually be very precise in where the TV is located in the house.. Ironically, the real ones were harder to spot, as they did not have the oversized dummy aerial on the roof, as it interfered with the DF loop

And Yes I do know people who worked in them, as part of the technology was developed by student projects at the University of Kent, along with several radio amateurs, who were into the TV transmission side of things, and they would bring the vans up for development work, and testing.

[spautoparts]

How could it detect where the tv is located in the house. The signal is picked up by a tv antenna then converted to an electrical signal which is then converted to sound and vision.
Also this would be undetectable if delivered by cable which is the most common transmission nowadays.

Also there has never been one single reported prosecution as a result of a detector van.

It's all smoke and mirrors

[rustic]

Originally Posted by spautoparts

How could it detect where the tv is located in the house. The signal is picked up by a tv antenna then converted to an electrical signal which is then converted to sound and vision.

I know that Briggie knows more about this, but in any receiver be it a radio or TV, has to have an oscillator that runs at or close to the same frequency as the transmitted signal, in simple terms this signal is used to help remove the "carrier " frequency, leaving just the video and audio data.

This oscillator is not that well screened, so some signal escapes, and it is this signal that can be detected. The antennas for detecting these signals are directional, so a line can be drawn, reposition the antenna, and where these lines cross is the position of the transmitter. Hence your TV. So they can then tell you which room it is in.
Depending on the frequency, it was said that they could tell what programme you were watching. BUT this was for the old analogue system, the digital system is different, but the principle is the same.

Hope this helps.
Briggie please feel free to update or correct any thing in my post.

Best regards,

Rustic

[briggie]

Originally Posted by rustic

I know that Briggie knows more about this, but in any receiver be it a radio or TV, has to have an oscillator that runs at or close to the same frequency as the transmitted signal, in simple terms this signal is used to help remove the "carrier " frequency, leaving just the video and audio data.

This oscillator is not that well screened, so some signal escapes, and it is this signal that can be detected. The antennas for detecting these signals are directional, so a line can be drawn, reposition the antenna, and where these lines cross is the position of the transmitter. Hence your TV. So they can then tell you which room it is in.
Depending on the frequency, it was said that they could tell what programme you were watching. BUT this was for the old analogue system, the digital system is different, but the principle is the same.

Hope this helps.
Briggie please feel free to update or correct any thing in my post.

Best regards,

Rustic

as above but......

with a TRANSMITTER it is very easy to determine precise location , however with a RECIEVER it isn't so easy ,but basically what rustic says with regards to the IF , also quite easy to pick up the magnetic field from a line output transformer

with the old analogue tv sets it was quite easy to detect a set being used , slightly more difficult with a digital tv , but still very possible ,
the question is do they have the technology and resources to do it ? ......

I leave that for you to decide

[R1cho]

Originally Posted by briggie

as above but......

with a TRANSMITTER it is very easy to determine precise location , however with a RECIEVER it isn't so easy ,but basically what rustic says with regards to the IF , also quite easy to pick up the magnetic field from a line output transformer

with the old analogue tv sets it was quite easy to detect a set being used , slightly more difficult with a digital tv , but still very possible ,
the question is do they have the technology and resources to do it ? ......

I leave that for you to decide

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...osecution.html

[ginna]

thats it not paying mine anymore

[Fez_uk]

Anyone got a spare tin foil hat?

[makeitfit]

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

Anyone got a spare tin foil hat?

here you go
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/John-Lear-...item1c393da0d2

[R1cho]

[Fez_uk]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

here you go
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/John-Lear-...item1c393da0d2

I was hoping to not pay anything being that I am a cardi

Will they stop the BBC telling me what to do and think?

[R1cho]

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

I was hoping to not pay anything being that I am a cardi

Will they stop the BBC telling me what to do and think?

depends if you have fillings in ya teeth or any metal implants not

[Fez_uk]

I should be safe then

[dave123]

Originally Posted by spautoparts

Please dont take offence but you are the exact type of person that th government love to prey on. You will do exactly as they ask.
As for tax dodging... I work in the care sector which are involves caring for the elderly on end of life care on 12 hour shifts for minimum wage because the government says its a vocation rather than a career and people just accept this. So after work I have to fix a couple of cars on the side to make ends meet and feed my kids because im not eligible for the government benefits. .
Also I pay my water rates because I believe I should. I'm paying for a service. The water company is collecting contaminated water, , cleaning it and pumping it to my house. This is worth paying for.

My point is why should I be bullied into paying out for something that is not really necessary or needed. The government are just big time gangsters at the end of the day and will continue to prey on the sheeple.

It's about time the people made a stand

this will make you laugh our household pays £1286 a year for the tv license and sky t.v calls and internet . how much of that do you really think they need to do all of it .?

[R1cho]

Originally Posted by dave123

this will make you laugh our household pays £1286 a year for the tv license and sky t.v calls and internet . how much of that do you really think they need to do all of it .?

and 6 months road tax of that is for the tv license, its funny i don't remember taking a test to be allowed to watch the tv, that being said i also think, if likemany other people you pay for sky tv, cable tv etc. then you are already paying and should be exempt from the license, i have none, not even an aerial connected on the roof, i stream everything off the net or watch dvd's, this means i dont need a license as i don't watch live t.v and tbh even if i did i doubt i would pay for it being as there is nothing but shite on it anyway, my way i get to watch what i want when i want