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Old 29-08-2013, 15:19   #16
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Ok, so it can legally tow a trailer of 2800kg's.

That's according to the manufacturer.

Perhaps my answer lacked the conciseness required?

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Old 29-08-2013, 15:44   #17
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I'm pretty sure we all understood your question but as this is an internet forum it is required that the thread should develop into an argument about something else.
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Old 29-08-2013, 16:22   #18
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If these are over- run brakes, then they can't possibly pull you up, the only way the brakes work on the trailer is by compressing the hitch, thus the trailer is PUSHING the vehicle at all times during braking, unless of course you are going up a steep hill at the time.

If the brakes on the trailer are not set correctly, or the damper on the over-run is faulty, then the trailer can really thump the rear of the car, not a good idea.

We have towed over2000 kg with our manual 2.7td LWB, straight as a dart.
Twin axle trailer, the trailer with boat is over 26 feet long.
No stabiliser, just have the weight and hitch load balanced correctly.

With two up in the Mav.... we still outweigh the boat and trailer.... just.

So 100% rule applies.ie Car weight = trailer weight

Never had the tail wagging the dog, even when lorries and coaches overtake.
Or indeed as we overtake them.
60 mph, boy it wants to go faster, you have to be careful to watch the speed.

Braking down hill with 2 tonne on the back...
NOW that is something else
I fitted drilled and slotted rossini discs on the front. Much better.


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What happens is when you brake you have to overcome the spring and the brakes come on they dont go off until the tow vehicle pulls away from the trailer its not simply a case of on or off if it was the trailer brakes would constantly be on and off jerking you all over the place.The point i was making re trailer pulling the car up is decending a hill you can hit the brakes coulping compresses then gently come off the brakes the trailer is still pushing the car trailer brakes stay on until you accelarate away from trailer.
Original question was answered correctly t2 can tow 2800kg dont let caravan club tell you different
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Old 29-08-2013, 19:10   #19
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tow weights and you'll find are factored in on the vin plate are based on ability to restart
on a 1 in 8 uphill.

many suvs a little bigger are 3500kg trailer.

in some cases of extreme gradients off caravan sites and farm lanes I used low box to double
the torque and spread it over both axles. wheb shunting on a grass field i uise low 4 as well
to reduce rear wheels trying to chew up the surface with my twin axle at 1660kg., saves
clutch wear too.
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Old 29-08-2013, 19:45   #20
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I use 4 low for reversing the caravan or trailer, makes it a nice speed and saves the clutch.
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Old 29-08-2013, 20:04   #21
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Quick question what sort of weight will my 2.7td maverick swb be capable of towing?

Cheers Gav
easily tows 2.7t....erm thats what a lr weights anyho
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Old 29-08-2013, 20:17   #22
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surely the definitive answer to the op , is to look at what the manual says ? .... I would but I don't know in which section to find it
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Old 29-08-2013, 20:25   #23
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surely the definitive answer to the op , is to look at what the manual says ? .... I would but I don't know in which section to find it
The definitive answer is on the chassis plate thats were mr plod will look if you get pulled.The question was answered in post number 2
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Old 29-08-2013, 20:28   #24
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The definitive answer is on the chassis plate thats were mr plod will look if you get pulled.The question was answered in post number 2
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It is not the weight that screws you up it is how it is towed what speed etc.

What is the max weight you can tow - see handbook.
Also see what your towing bracket is rated at, see also is it a braked or unbraked trailer, see also what speed are my tyres rated for, see also what are the road/ off road conditions, see also how far are you travelling, see also what is the ambient temp, see also is it high or low sided etc. etc.

Basically the caravanning fraternity recommend no more than 85% of the kerbweight for beginners rising to 100% for experienced people, but there are many factors. If you have an accident (and survive) the plod can do you for having an unsafe load for just about anything

I have been towing caravans for over 25 years (17 with a Terrano) and never had a problem until this year. I stupidly traded in my 2.7 TDi (12 years from New) for shiny 3 year old Rav 4. Joining the M3 from the west I suddenly felt the back end move and looking in my mirrors I saw the caravan broadside on and swinging form side to side (missus shouting STOP IT ROBERT). I gently eased off the speed and gently steered to keep myself relatively straight, luckily, loosing energy the swing stabilised. My brother in law, towing behind me, reckoned I was using all 3 lanes and I was going to crash.

Anyway long story short, tow what you can convince a policeman that it is safe and even then take care (Don't use a Rav)
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Old 29-08-2013, 21:31   #26
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Sorry a little bit more:
Depending on the age of the vehicle you may have to have a type approved Towbar and euro towball.
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Old 29-08-2013, 23:59   #27
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As said above towing limits tell you the max weight that can pull away off a gradient and therefore are more a guide to engine power than anything else. Just because it can pull away with that weight up a hill doesn't mean it will stop it going done one . For caravans 85 to 90% of kerbweight loaded correctly would considered acceptable by both caravan clubs but with experience a weight in the 90's is often used. As for trailers a weight nearer the tow limit can be used as the effects of wind and passing trucks is less of a problem. I have towed 2 1/2 tonne of car and trailer behind mine with no worries but do have 30 odd years of towing experience.

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Old 30-08-2013, 08:07   #28
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I wonder if 4x4s hill start weight is based on use of lowbox, cant see ever read it
but some of Caravan Club Tow Car of Year Tests have mentioned on test track
have struggled to restart some pickup and suv combinations though usually moan
about inability of handbrake to hold the rig.

There are many cars with similar size engines and no transfer with lower tow weights
though of course the fun would be trying to get back into high box once rolling, oh
and transmission wind up....
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