Hello From Down Under

[Adam_83]

Originally Posted by Lazy-Ferret

Another person on here had an issue where the lock nut on the master cylinder fork adjustment where it joins to the peddle. It had come loose, and had worked its way down the thread, so the peddle was not actually pushing the master cylinder in properly.

Those are the easy ones I can think of... Fingers crossed it is one of those...

this is a good point as i was reading this

http://www.nissan4x4.co.za/forum/for...733&PN=0&TPN=4

that will be my first check and changing the fluid tomorrow, thanks again

[Fez_uk]

Originally Posted by Adam_83

yeh tell me about it, and there are no MOT's here so some cars (because of the mechanics price) are absolute knackers lol

the average wage is about $20 per hour so about £10-13 an hour depending on exchange rate. if you want fast cash come to Australia lots of work and good pay.

Ah does not sound as bad, Might be a fair match to UK mechanic prices.

I'd love to come to aus, doubt I'd leave though

[Adam_83]

Originally Posted by Fez_uk

I'd love to come to aus, doubt I'd leave though

i dont want to leave either there are so many places to off road and it is all great fun, just need to get this fixed,

you can drive up the beach to a deserted spot and then just park up and surf then bbq then off road all the way home, happy happy days

cheers for the help guys

[Adam_83]

hay folks, altered the pedal and the clutch didnt change at all but after pumping it about 40x it came back but i assume it will go again so would that suggest it is water or air in the system as is came back once before but then went again, i hope it is just a fluid change that is needed

thanks again

[trophymick]

Sounds like air in the system Adam, get someone to pump the pedal while you bleed it. Keep going until new fluid is right through the system.




Mick

[Adam_83]

Originally Posted by trophymick

Sounds like air in the system Adam, get someone to pump the pedal while you bleed it. Keep going until new fluid is right through the system.

Mick

yeh Mick i agree with you, i flushed it all though and it is much better but stupidly as i was bleeding i didnt top up enough and some air got in to the system, i have flushed and flushed and flushed nearly a liter though (with help) but i cant seem to get the air out. any tips?

it drive fine then the clutch goes again i pump it a few times and it is back so defo air in the system just cant get rid of it.

any ideas??

[trophymick]

Hmmm, when I bleed anything on a vehicle I use a old glass jar and a length of transparent tube (fish tank or windscreen washer pipe), I only open the bleed nipple on the downward stroke of the pedal, and get whoever is pressing the pedal (usually my wife ) to hold the pedal down while I tighten the bleed nipple.
Then do it all again until bubbles stop appearing in the jar, but you must keep the master cylinder topped up!

So, press clutch pedal down and open the bleed nipple as this is happening.
Hold down clutch pedal until the nipple is tightened up (this is essential).
Release clutch pedal, and repeat process until all air has been expelled.
Get the pedal pusher to keep an eye on the master cylinder every 2 or 3 downward strokes of the pedal.

Hope this makes sense.

I might be teaching egg sucking here, but...............
Put about an inch or so (2.5mm/3.5mm) of brake/clutch fluid in the jar, attach one end the tube to the bleed nipple, and the other end goes in the jar as visual aid to seeing any bubbles of air. Make sure the tube is always below the surface of the fluid in the jar.

You may know all this already, if so I apologise!



Mick

[Adam_83]

Originally Posted by trophymick

You may know all this already, if so I apologise!



Mick

no need to apologise that is perfect and spot on and that is what i have been doing but i cant seem to get rid of the bubbles, i can see them in the pipe the pipe that i have attached to the bleed nipple and no matter how much i bleed and top up etc it keeps showing small bubbles in the line as it is bleeding out.

i assume there should be no little bubbles in the bleed line (pipe to the jar)

i am sure this is why the clutch comes and goes and why if i pump it it gets better.

[Lazy-Ferret]

Thats how I had to do it as well...

I started out using my self bleed kit, which has a one way valve on the end of the clear pipe, but I think it was sucking air back in round the bleed nipple thread, so I ended up getting my wife to pump the pedal, and keep an eye on the reservoir, while I opened and closed the bleed nipple.

Just a point, you did find the bleed nipple at the back of the car above the rear axle as well?

I could not make my mind up what way round to bleed the system, so I started at the top, then did the slave, then did the damper pipe, then went back and did the slave, finally doing a couple of extra pumps back through the top. You only get about 3 or 4 pumps, before you have to fill the reservoir back up, so it's a lot easier with 3 people.

[Adam_83]

Originally Posted by Lazy-Ferret

Just a point, you did find the bleed nipple at the back of the car above the rear axle as well?.

thank you Lazy-Ferret for the info, lol nope didnt even think there was another one, thought there was only one on the slave, would i need to bleed from this nipple as well? all the videos i have looked at and guides on the net dont speak of a rear nipple only the one on the slave? is the terrano different from normal cars?

Originally Posted by Lazy-Ferret

I could not make my mind up what way round to bleed the system, so I started at the top, then did the slave, then did the damper pipe, then went back and did the slave, finally doing a couple of extra pumps back through the top. You only get about 3 or 4 pumps, before you have to fill the reservoir back up, so it's a lot easier with 3 people.

For the befit of the dumbo (ME) can you please explain what you mean by 'Top' 'Slave' 'Damper' i have done the slave but what is the top and what is the damper is that the rear nipple and would that be bled in the same way?

... or are you talking about breaks as i am talking about the clutch?

[Adam_83]

brakes i mean. sorry for the spelling

[trophymick]

Adam, on the Terrano and Mavericks they have a clutch damper.
It's a brake/clutch pipe that goes from the slave cylinder to the rear of the vehicle, where there's another bleed nipple, don't ask ....................
I think it takes a bit of rumble and feedback out of the clutch mechanism through the pedal.


Have a look at your slave cylinder to see if there is a pipe off it running rearwards, it's possible that you might not have one.


Mick

[Lazy-Ferret]

Originally Posted by Adam_83

For the befit of the dumbo (ME) can you please explain what you mean by 'Top' 'Slave' 'Damper' i have done the slave but what is the top and what is the damper is that the rear nipple and would that be bled in the same way?

... or are you talking about breaks as i am talking about the clutch?

Mine is a 1999 T2, and it has (had) 3 bleed nipple on the clutch system. 1 up on the master cylinder, the one on the slave, and a third one at the rear of the car just above the rear axle on the RHS as you sit in the car facing the front.

If you look at the flexible rubber pipe that goes to the Slave cylinder, at the other end to the pipe to the cylinder, there is a metal block, and leaving this block, is 2 pipes, a smaller one up to the Master cylinder, plus a bigger pipe that runs to the back of the car with the fuel and brake pipes.

This pipe is apparently a damper pipe, to stop clutch judder, but many people on here, including me, have disconnected this pipe, blanking off the hole in the square block, or some have replaced the flexible pipe with a front flexible brake pipe to completely get rid of the block as well. So far I have had no noticeable negative effect from removing it, and it is a lot easier to bleed now...

[Adam_83]

Originally Posted by Lazy-Ferret

This pipe is apparently a damper pipe, to stop clutch judder,...

i think i may have this as i get clutch judder lol when shifting down so will have a look.

many thanks

i will update you asap

can thank you guys enough for the help

[Adam_83]

there is no feed to the rear there is a hard line from the master to a soft line that links to the slave that is it,

i am struggling to find the bleed nipple in the master? as think this will be good to get the air out

thanks for the support folks buying you all beers when i am back in the uk