Newbie from Southampton.

Grendel · 26-01-2013, 10:13

Hi Folks after many years with Sports cars I’ve decided to move onto something a bit slower that I can get muddy. Last year was looking at getting a 4x4 but decided it would cost too much to run so stupidly bought a Impreza Turbo which is ridiculous in fuel cost and rather boring to drive since it may have 220BHP but with the power steering and AWD its too easy to drive fast unlike the non turbo RWD cars I have owned in the past.

ANYWAY I’m looking to trade in the impreza for a Mavrick/Terrano 2.7TDi and wondered if there is anything I should look out for or if someone in the Southampton area could show me around there’s to give me a better idea please.

I understand the 2.7D is a taxi engine and there are subtle differences in that the early ones didn’t have bonnet vents but also not sure if the suspension is modern spring like car or the ridged leaf spring like Land Rovers?

zippy656 · 26-01-2013, 10:32

Hi,and welcome

Swb is best for playing

SPARKIEDOO · 26-01-2013, 17:00

WELCOME M8

rustic · 26-01-2013, 17:13

Re Suspension:-

Torsion bar on the front, coil on the rear.

Welcome to the club
Look out for rust on the front wings, starting at the plastic wheel arches, rust around the rear seat belt fixings, these appear in the rear wheel arches.

Inner front wings too, also the front out riggers that support the front bumper and the front cross member.
Have a good look around the front body mounts where the body bolts to the chassis.
I am speaking from other members problems, NOT my problems, of my nearly 18 year old Maverick, as that is still immaculate.

Waxoyl and a warm de- humidified garage all help to keep it that way.

Can't wait for the salt to go so I can wash all this crap off it, especially underneath. It will get a rinse tomorrow though....

Rock it from side to side, might have a click or two, could be your front drop links, but cheap to replace.

hope this helps...
best regards,

Rustic

jims-terrano · 26-01-2013, 17:37

Welcome aboard

Rust is a big enemy if they havn't been looked after. Most of the spots aren't too bad to sort. Obviously newer the better for that.

Sometimes you find 4wd never been used so front hubs may have a fault or just a clean. Never use the 4wd on a hard surface, the wheels need to be able to slip a little to stop wind up.

2.7 TD upto 1996 and then 2.7TDi onwards. Easy to tell the TDIi has a big vent in the bonnet. Approx 2001 the 3litre TD was introduced, slightly better fuel economy. Both pretty strong power plants, the 2.7 is gear driven timing so no belts or rattling chains. They also did a 2.4 petrol, again a strong unit.

I've had mine for 11 years and love it to bit's, really trust it in the snow.

Grendel · 26-01-2013, 20:09

This looks intersting.

http://www.trademotorsltd.co.uk/used...01303498781173

I think from photo may have had some bodywork done on passenger side but is it still a fair price?

Grendel · 26-01-2013, 20:40

Are the Petrol ones worth looking at or bit more expensive to run than the 2.7Tdi?

Seen a few at private sale ones nearer ans cheaper.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-FORD-...item2326ebdbcd

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-MAVER...item3a7dc01e66

solarman216 · 26-01-2013, 20:58

Petrol are more fuel hungry than the diesel, but the high torque comes in lower down, you need to hear the car start after several hours standing, if it rattles then timing chain & tensioners gone, common problem which even the modified set up has failed to cure long term, also big end shells most times need replacing, Rick

solarman216 · 27-01-2013, 09:35

having said all that I ran a 2.4 on a sump full of water for over half an hour while winching, drained it and changed the filter, and it did two more meetings and still runs, rattles on startup but quiet after that, very hardy engines, oh and re LWB SWB see the thread "Got Stuck" by "stinka", Rick

jims-terrano · 27-01-2013, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grendel

This looks intersting.

http://www.trademotorsltd.co.uk/used...01303498781173

I think from photo may have had some bodywork done on passenger side but is it still a fair price?

Is it me or is the NS Sill got a red oxide type colour at the back? I guess if lucky it's been plated or worst a crap repair. Is this the paintwork that you were talking about?

Grendel · 27-01-2013, 10:50

Yes thats the repair by the looks of it. Seems a bit hight priced if it has had bodywork done?

stinka · 27-01-2013, 10:59

Tbh the Lwb is hardly long at 104 inches compaired to say a landcruiser

stinka · 27-01-2013, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grendel

Yes thats the repair by the looks of it. Seems a bit hight priced if it has had bodywork done?

£1500 max

rustic · 27-01-2013, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jims-terrano

Is it me or is the NS Sill got a red oxide type colour at the back? I guess if lucky it's been plated or worst a crap repair. Is this the paintwork that you were talking about?

Sharp eyes Jim strikes again.

If they haven't tried to hide it, it should be easier to find other repairs

The SWB is more prone to rust in that area than the LWB, for some unknown reason...
Might be in the construction, as the LWB has a door above this sill.

Grendel · 27-01-2013, 15:41

I presume the Maverick and terrano 2.7Tdi are the same except the the badge but the mavericks seem cheaper?

Also what is the cheapest way to lift them body lift or suspention lift or is it the same thing?

26-01-2013, 10:13	#1
Grendel Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 22	Newbie from Southampton. Hi Folks after many years with Sports cars I’ve decided to move onto something a bit slower that I can get muddy. Last year was looking at getting a 4x4 but decided it would cost too much to run so stupidly bought a Impreza Turbo which is ridiculous in fuel cost and rather boring to drive since it may have 220BHP but with the power steering and AWD its too easy to drive fast unlike the non turbo RWD cars I have owned in the past. ANYWAY I’m looking to trade in the impreza for a Mavrick/Terrano 2.7TDi and wondered if there is anything I should look out for or if someone in the Southampton area could show me around there’s to give me a better idea please. I understand the 2.7D is a taxi engine and there are subtle differences in that the early ones didn’t have bonnet vents but also not sure if the suspension is modern spring like car or the ridged leaf spring like Land Rovers?

26-01-2013, 17:13	#4
rustic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Staffordshire Vehicle: Maverick Mk I 2.7 TD LWB Posts: 7,825	Re Suspension:- Torsion bar on the front, coil on the rear. Welcome to the club Look out for rust on the front wings, starting at the plastic wheel arches, rust around the rear seat belt fixings, these appear in the rear wheel arches. Inner front wings too, also the front out riggers that support the front bumper and the front cross member. Have a good look around the front body mounts where the body bolts to the chassis. I am speaking from other members problems, NOT my problems, of my nearly 18 year old Maverick, as that is still immaculate. Waxoyl and a warm de- humidified garage all help to keep it that way. Can't wait for the salt to go so I can wash all this crap off it, especially underneath. It will get a rinse tomorrow though.... Rock it from side to side, might have a click or two, could be your front drop links, but cheap to replace. hope this helps... best regards, Rustic __________________ Ford Maverick GLX 1995 2.7TD LWB in illusion silver, 98k miles. Owned since new, for 22 years. Best car I have ever owned. Just wish I could drive it more.

26-01-2013, 20:58	#8
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	Petrol are more fuel hungry than the diesel, but the high torque comes in lower down, you need to hear the car start after several hours standing, if it rattles then timing chain & tensioners gone, common problem which even the modified set up has failed to cure long term, also big end shells most times need replacing, Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

27-01-2013, 09:35	#9
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	having said all that I ran a 2.4 on a sump full of water for over half an hour while winching, drained it and changed the filter, and it did two more meetings and still runs, rattles on startup but quiet after that, very hardy engines, oh and re LWB SWB see the thread "Got Stuck" by "stinka", Rick __________________ Ex banger racer now off road maniac Lokka on the front with manual hubs Diff lock on rear 3 inch SS straight through exhaust Manly winch bumper with 13000 lb winch 10 spike ground anchor, with multiple straps and blocks Super strong body cills capped with scaffold pole 20% stronger springs all round aggressive off road tyres on wheels so just swap. Aim to get stuck and be completely self sufficient in extraction, love getting muddy, 2ft deep is good but rare.

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26-01-2013, 10:32	#2
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	Hi,and welcome Swb is best for playing

26-01-2013, 17:00	#3
SPARKIEDOO Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: cupar scotland Vehicle: terrano II SWB 2.7 (2002) Posts: 431	WELCOME M8

26-01-2013, 17:37	#5
jims-terrano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 12,965	Welcome aboard Rust is a big enemy if they havn't been looked after. Most of the spots aren't too bad to sort. Obviously newer the better for that. Sometimes you find 4wd never been used so front hubs may have a fault or just a clean. Never use the 4wd on a hard surface, the wheels need to be able to slip a little to stop wind up. 2.7 TD upto 1996 and then 2.7TDi onwards. Easy to tell the TDIi has a big vent in the bonnet. Approx 2001 the 3litre TD was introduced, slightly better fuel economy. Both pretty strong power plants, the 2.7 is gear driven timing so no belts or rattling chains. They also did a 2.4 petrol, again a strong unit. I've had mine for 11 years and love it to bit's, really trust it in the snow.

26-01-2013, 20:09	#6
Grendel Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 22	This looks intersting. http://www.trademotorsltd.co.uk/used...01303498781173 I think from photo may have had some bodywork done on passenger side but is it still a fair price?

26-01-2013, 20:40	#7
Grendel Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 22	Are the Petrol ones worth looking at or bit more expensive to run than the 2.7Tdi? Seen a few at private sale ones nearer ans cheaper. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-FORD-...item2326ebdbcd http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-MAVER...item3a7dc01e66

27-01-2013, 10:50	#11
Grendel Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 22	Yes thats the repair by the looks of it. Seems a bit hight priced if it has had bodywork done?

27-01-2013, 10:59	#12
stinka Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Staffs Vehicle: '02 Terrano TDI sport lwb Posts: 3,787	Tbh the Lwb is hardly long at 104 inches compaired to say a landcruiser

27-01-2013, 15:41	#15
Grendel Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Southampton Posts: 22	I presume the Maverick and terrano 2.7Tdi are the same except the the badge but the mavericks seem cheaper? Also what is the cheapest way to lift them body lift or suspention lift or is it the same thing?