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[melissachels]

Originally Posted by briggie

just a thought ..... there might be different rules in scotland

I don't think so, certainly not on the major usual stuff anyho, still go by dvla n vosa ect

[cncfabs]

Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

not technically correct, there are no towing limits on weight on a cat. B

see direct gov site.

however its self defined that such vehicles have a max of 3500kg generally
though some car have had more, my old rrc had 3500 normal and 6000 i think
in tractor mode!, plating had something about not exceeding 18mph

rrc range rover classic.

also seen american pickups that fell in to b not c1 that had tow weight of
around 4000kg....

Max trailer weight with over run brakes has always been 3500kg

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

perhaps with over run, though there are other methods...

saw section on direct gov other day, can't now, typical, though
did find this in relation to new regs from 1 jan 13

Category BE
If your trailer weighs over 750 kg and the combined trailer and towing vehicle weight is more than 3,500 kg, you’ll need to pass a further test. The trailer you tow must not be heavier than 3,500 kg. This test will be shown on your driving licence as category BE.
Category C1E
To tow a trailer weighing more than 3,500 kg with a car or small vehicle (category B), you’ll need to pass a test for category C1E.


So note there must be some sub 3500kg vehicles with option to tug more.
even though i agree typical car gross trains are based on 3500 mam for trailer.

I'm thinking these mini fifth wheels where in a sense you are not just towing
but also carrying a large nose weight. so trailer weight is over 3500. the trailer
axles carry so much of its weight, the tug the other.

theres also a section saying there are no ratios of weight for BE class, so 85%
is only a recommendation as is usually more than enough for a caravan a flat
bed or tipper trailer is easy to get to say 2800kg for a terrano, or 3500kg for
a patrol.
ironically a vosa leaflet extols the virtues of 85% for all trailer types.

[cncfabs]

Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

perhaps with over run, though there are other methods...

saw section on direct gov other day, can't now, typical, though
did find this in relation to new regs from 1 jan 13

Category BE
If your trailer weighs over 750 kg and the combined trailer and towing vehicle weight is more than 3,500 kg, you’ll need to pass a further test. The trailer you tow must not be heavier than 3,500 kg. This test will be shown on your driving licence as category BE.
Category C1E
To tow a trailer weighing more than 3,500 kg with a car or small vehicle (category B), you’ll need to pass a test for category C1E.


So note there must be some sub 3500kg vehicles with option to tug more.
even though i agree typical car gross trains are based on 3500 mam for trailer.

I'm thinking these mini fifth wheels where in a sense you are not just towing
but also carrying a large nose weight. so trailer weight is over 3500. the trailer
axles carry so much of its weight, the tug the other.

theres also a section saying there are no ratios of weight for BE class, so 85%
is only a recommendation as is usually more than enough for a caravan a flat
bed or tipper trailer is easy to get to say 2800kg for a terrano, or 3500kg for
a patrol.
ironically a vosa leaflet extols the virtues of 85% for all trailer types.

I think you will find overrun brakes with auto reverse are the only legal option on car trailers under 3500kg trailers over 3500 fall into completly different catagory and are towed by lgv's