fuel strike ..... your views ?

[arcascomp]

I like the idea of removing car tax completely and upping the tax on fuel, the more you use it, the more you pay. Scrap no win, no fee lawyers and "some one is to blame for your stupidity" types and maybe insurance will come down.

Can you tell I run on Veg?

[Jonny_5]

I think it's wrong.. As i we're not busy enough with the likes of Afghan and dealing with the Olympics we now have to man Fuel Tankers as well! It's extremely difficult for a soldier to join the Fire Brigade once he leaves the army as they believe we crossed the picket line when we had to man the Green Goddesses, as if we had any choice!!

For God and the soldier we alike adore, In times of trouble, not before!
The troubles gone, and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier slighted."
- Rudyard Kipling

[Jonny_5]

Sorry, rant over

[fridgman]

I do think that most soldiers join to protect their country and not to be used as a political tool as the government see fit. Using the Army in a union fight seems absurd!
Of course losing a days takings on fuel duty at the pumps is quite a large sum!! Perhaps if motorists went on strike for one day the government might reconsider their position.

[dollywobbler]

Originally Posted by 11redrex

we should have a poll. Who's car on here does more than 25mpg ?

Depends which one.
2CV = 45mpg
BX diesel = 50mpg
Wife's (proper) Mini = 50mpg
Maverick = 20mpg.

Mustard mitt, I've not been driving the Maverick so much lately...

[melissachels]

I think the goverment r mad! I cannot see how keeping fuel duty at the same rate or higher benefits anyone!

1. higher fuel duty means less of ur can afford to run our cars to get to work or anywhere else
2. small business will suffer in delivery terms
3. to holiday in the uk is dearer than to fly abroad
4. large businesses will push up prices due to the increase in fuel & to protect they're profits meaning we buy less
5. putting more in our cars means we have less to spend elsewhere
6. live outside of a city like myself n u have little choice but to have a car
7. hobby sports will suffer i.e. offroading, any motor sport or any u need to travel to
8. PUBLIC TRANSPORT IS MINCE!

its absolutly nuts! personally I think if u smoke, drink or are obese u should pay your own medical bill if it is related causes, i.e. type 2 diabetes cos ur obese, liver disese cos u drink or lung cancer cos u smoke. but thats my opinion.

they need to cut the social benefits bill more than what they already are too. for exapmle i know a girl who get 1400 per mth b4 her child benefit and tax credits for a physical disability that I have never noticed, the girl has a horse n can work as quick and as able as anyone else! but yet a single mum or single person gets max of £71pw! (ur tax cradits and child ben are for ur kids) Its bloody madness!

they got it all wrong put me in parliment n i'll take no prisioners!

[arcascomp]

Hah, might even get me vote Melissachels! - maybe we should have a separate Scotland after all, then our politicians can make their own screw ups

[melissachels]

Originally Posted by arcascomp

Hah, might even get me vote Melissachels! - maybe we should have a separate Scotland after all, then our politicians can make their own screw ups

they call me the ice queen for a reason! pmsl

[arcascomp]

I guess if we're going extreme, put poison in fags and supply pure heroin to the streets and that'll clear up a load off the NHS! After all they warn that cigarettes will kill you, so why not speed it along a bit!

Hmmmm, getting a bit close to building efficient railways and 'special' shower blocks

[Bat21]

Originally Posted by dollywobbler

.... Mustard mitt, I've not been driving the Maverick so much lately...

Originally Posted by melissachels

I think the goverment r mad! I cannot see how keeping fuel duty at the same rate or higher benefits anyone!

It's not designed to benefit anyone, it's a way of forcing Joe Public to use less fuel... see above quote from the wobbler of dollies

If fuel was cheaper we would all be running our 4x4's as our daily motors and burning a gallon of this precious commodity every 20-25 miles.... then what happens when the worlds oil fields run out?

Originally Posted by melissachels

.... personally I think if u smoke, drink or are obese u should pay your own medical bill if it is related causes, i.e. type 2 diabetes cos ur obese, liver disese cos u drink or lung cancer cos u smoke. but thats my opinion.

they need to cut the social benefits bill more than what they already are too.

Yep with you all the way on those.... self inflicted illnesses shouldn't be covered by the NHS.

[(RIP) PLANK]

Originally Posted by melissachels

its absolutly nuts! personally I think if u smoke, drink or are obese u should pay your own medical bill if it is related causes, i.e. type 2 diabetes cos ur obese, liver disese cos u drink or lung cancer cos u smoke. but thats my opinion.

I have to disagree on this view, many of the things you mention are socially created issues for example smoking. The government condoned it and encouraged it for decades, then ignored it for a few more. The present approach of tax and targeted campaigns seems to be paying off - a slow process but it has to be encouraged the way it was encouraged.

That was an easy example but here are many underlying social conditioning variables to many issues that need to be tackled not just 'it's your own fault so tough' and the government does seem to be working on reversing the process with measures against fast food and tax. Maybe the measures are wrong, maybe they won't work, but they have to start somewhere and victim blaming isn't it

[makeitfit]

Agreed , why the hell should NHS have to do boob jobs free aswell, AND put right all the bloody french silicone jobs ffs

[(RIP) PLANK]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Agreed , why the hell should NHS have to do boob jobs free aswell, AND put right all the bloody french silicone jobs ffs

to an extent the media conditioning of women gives rise to the need for cosmetic enhancements, but it has been a much shorter process and never supported by the government so on that one I agree. OK so if a woman needs a boob job for health reasons then yes. But why we should foot the bill for private practitioners cock ups I don't know

[spinna]

I dont use my trol at all at moment, the tax is due end of week, insurance due in couple of weeks. Unless i sort something out our Nice new to us tintent wont be goin anywhere this year cus our little astra that does 50mpg and has only costs £30 a year to tax would't pull the skin of a rice pudding.

I do understand the fossil fuel problem but believe it will be some time until there is an alternative capable of our needs and at cost that people in the real world can afford. My trol and astra only do about 12000 miles per year between them and our cash situation is suffering so can only imagine how others are coping.

[solarman216]

Now we are getting the inevitable panic buying, cant say I am that bothered, if I cant get fuel I will stay at home, Rick