car port type project

[clivvy]

Hey chaps,

been thinking about a little project for the back garden, wanted to run it by you as so many of you know your stuff.

Ok, let me explain my back garden/property layout. Our house, is a small square box. along one side, we have a shared driveway and path. at the back of the house, and to the side of the shared driveway, we have a tarmacced parking space, behind which is a garage with covered extension.

I want to build a covered area, between the back of the house, and the garage extension, making the parking area, well, covered! I then want a light, and an out door socket.

Now, would I need some sort of planning permission? the design would be slightly odd, as the parking space and garage are not square within the house boundary, if you see what I mean? so it wouldnt be a simple oblong type construction, it would need to branch out slightly from the house, in order to meet square with the garage extension, meaning that the first corner could NOT have a support pillar (would rely on some sort of support attached to the house)

any ideas on the permissions issues?? I understand the covered area would need to be snow-bearing, and slightly sloped for drainage but the back garden drops away slightly anyway...

[glenbo]

best to get in touch with your local council to be on the safe side you dont want to build it and then be told to take it down

[R1cho]

just put a gazebo up lol

[macabethiel]

Worth going onto your local authority planning portal they are online now and easy to follow. You will probably need permitted development permission only not full planning permission.
If it has no foundations they used to be classed as a temporary structure and needed no consent of any sort.

A lot on people have them near where I live and they have gone for Polycarbonate sheeting as its light and strong and if you design it right its quite sturdy in windy conditions.

Advantage of going for permitted development is its cheapish (less than £100) and your neighbour cant give you grief later and make you take it down.

[clivvy]

thanks for that, i will have a search for the local site online, and start getting some ideas together....

[nenook]

hey up , ive built a car port type structure at the bottom of my garden 6m by 3 m by 2.4 m , , when I asked my council this is what they said , as long as your proposed structure hasent got any foundations and dosent obstruct your neighbours you do not need planning permission, bingo , I made my steel uprights and 2 big brakets to mount on the back of my garage , 2 days job done


regards

nenook

[clivvy]

cheers nenook, that sounds like what im considering doing, i will double check with them though, but from what I have just read online, I should be ok as I wont be building foundations.

[The Patrolman]

Tell'em nowt!!
if you've got nice neighbours it's not an issue!
If your on their list and they've got nowt else better to do they'll come to you first.
We've done loft extension (12yrs ago) and utility extension 2yrs ago no worries.

Just do it!!

A few uprights and brackets is hardly a permenant structure.

[nenook]

hey up clivvy, patrolman is right in saying about it not being a permanent structure, but its always worth having a chat with the suits.

[jims-terrano]

I wouldn't contact planning for that either Clivvy, if the bloke next door said anything just tell him the council have said no permissions needed due to it not having foundations and classed as a temp structure which in fairness wont be far from the truth.

Fasten it down well including the polycarb as it'll make a cracking wing when it gets windy.

Jim

[makeitfit]

Gorden Bennet , just bloody build it and stop ponsing about
It's temporary, end of
PS, shoot your neighbor

[clivvy]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Gorden Bennet , just bloody build it and stop ponsing about
It's temporary, end of
PS, shoot your neighbor

lol, im not poncing about...yet.....lol, but yeah, it seems i dont need to ask for permission which is the way i like it. all I need to do now is actually draw up my plans, and select the materials. forget the neighbour, i aint worried about him, hes a cock and he does what he wants, so he can kiss my arse if he doesnt like something I do.

anyhoo, I figure the basic structure will be three load bearing pillers, and a fourth way of attaching to driveaay side corner of house, again, need to plan this. We are in a cul de sac, and the wind gets pretty bad. We do have a small extension on the garage, which is fitted with a clear poly roof-no problems at all with this, so I suspect something similar will be ok, only on a slightly larger scale!

[Fez_uk]

Originally Posted by makeitfit

Gorden Bennet , just bloody build it and stop ponsing about
It's temporary, end of

thats what I was about to say

ger it up. plan it as you go, the proper welsh way.

[Daz__]

Hello

Sounds like a good plan mate, i'd get a steel bracket/saddle fabricated if i were you to attach to the corner of the house that a timber can sit in and bolt through, just make sure its got some decent straps on it, say 18-24" so its not all hanging on one brick! dont fix with metal rawl bolts as the lift/pop the bricks go with chemical anchors/studs much better.

maybe fix the other posts doen with met post brackets resin fixed to your concrete drive (if it is concrete?!)

6x2" timbers down the sides as main barers and 4x2" timbers for the cross joists.

And throw some timbers in from the support posts to main barers at 45* to brace it all up with coach bolts and spikey washers inbetween to stop the whole thing twisting if it gets windy!

good luck

[clivvy]

Originally Posted by Daz__

Hello

Sounds like a good plan mate, i'd get a steel bracket/saddle fabricated if i were you to attach to the corner of the house that a timber can sit in and bolt through, just make sure its got some decent straps on it, say 18-24" so its not all hanging on one brick! dont fix with metal rawl bolts as the lift/pop the bricks go with chemical anchors/studs much better.

maybe fix the other posts doen with met post brackets resin fixed to your concrete drive (if it is concrete?!)

6x2" timbers down the sides as main barers and 4x2" timbers for the cross joists.

And throw some timbers in from the support posts to main barers at 45* to brace it all up with coach bolts and spikey washers inbetween to stop the whole thing twisting if it gets windy!

good luck

Daz, some really good advice there mate thank you, I will keep hold of this post. Also, good plan about the corner bracket too, I will keep that in mind!

the drive is tarmac, but the pathway is concrete with slabs to one side, but most of its coming up at some point anyway, I will just leave concrete for the posts.

yup, really good tips there mate thanks again!