sounds a bit dodgy - Page 2

larson · 08-03-2011, 14:03

ive been offered full tickets for £100 at a m.o.t station. he passes then as long as it looks ok ant breaks and tyres are good theny ou get a list of what needs doing..

and before you ask i declined as tempting as it was

maybe hes running one like this.

makeitfit · 08-03-2011, 14:30

£75 in Merthyr

08-03-2011, 14:47

i had one the motors done as i only wanted it for couple months,£50 staurday morning nudge nudge wink wink ,so long as its not totaly lethal or dangerous hell let it slide!

makeitfit · 08-03-2011, 15:48

My mate's brother in law new a guy who did his mot for £25 and a kiss

lacroupade · 08-03-2011, 16:20

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

My mate's brother in law new a guy who did his mot for £25 and a kiss

tongues?

makeitfit · 08-03-2011, 21:32

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

tongues?

It's only 20 then

Deleted account DD · 08-03-2011, 21:53

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Originally Posted by lacroupade

Actually the law is a bit grey there. The old MoT remains valid until it expires, so you don't commit the offence of not having one if you take it on the road.

Not quite sure where thats come from but as soon as the fail is issued the vehicle no longer holds an mot record . Sure theres still an apparently valid cert hanging around thatll fool them at the post office but the last issued document be it a pass or fail automatically supersedes previous ones

Where confusion often (allegedly

though the last magistrate i saw dealing with it didnt buy the story) comes in is that when your issued with a new pass, the old one remains valid and the new one youve got early comes in when that one expires. Hence its still valid even though youve submitted the vehicle for test.

The logic behind all of this is becoming invalid takes unroadworthy vehicles off the road immediately. Giving the extra in advance helps out the decent ones

Cant remember but either DVLA or Vosa website explains this but is quite clear it only remains valid if it passes

Deleted account DD · 08-03-2011, 22:03

meant to add to that , the acid test and burden of proof is that if youre stopped its unlikely the certificate will be physically checked. The computer records will be (which is where anpr data comes from)

Im not sure but i understand that under the new regime of computerised testing at the mot station theyre all networked and as soon as "fail" is inputted at the station, the central ie one thats used as the definitive check, will show a fail and therefore not holding an MOT

Im way out of date on the computer side of this but i do remember getting a statement from the DoT (pre vosa) for a case where a car had failed. After the intro blurb the statement quite simply said that the vehicle did not hold a current valid MOT because the last recorded transaction was a fail

briggie · 08-03-2011, 22:06

not my problem now anyway ...... or is it ?

makeitfit · 08-03-2011, 22:09

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Originally Posted by briggie

not my problem now anyway ...... or is it ?

As long as you've posted off the green bit

You should get a letter back from the DVLA saying you sold the truck and no longer responsible, yadayada.
Keep that if you must

Deleted account DD · 08-03-2011, 22:18

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Originally Posted by makeitfit

As long as you've posted off the green bit

You should get a letter back from the DVLA saying you sold the truck and no longer responsible, yadayada.
Keep that if you must

Good advice, those letters are worth their weight in gold at times

As far as the ongoing debate of is it invalidated goes theres some real horse shit on the internet , just been having a good scout around

Just made a quick phone call and the answer i got was "whatever...............but..............ok youve got a valid bit of paper but youve also got a non pass, all recorded, so which will be the most valid when the case file is put together or the fixed penalty issued"

good point grey area or not and the report the fail presents is valid expert opinion

Also, MOTs are checked on the computer systems even if the cert is produced. Quite frankly anyone keen to present one is suspicious anyway, Ill bet most of you are like me and have to think where the damn thing is

solarman216 · 09-03-2011, 00:33

I would keep some carefully made notes on what has happened dates, times of MOT fail and sale of motor and checking with DVLA etc so that if this guy gets pulled (and surely he will) that if he tries to say he new nothing about the MOT failure and tries passing the buck to you that you have all the correct answers, maybe some time down the line, although in theory he will be responsible for getting it tested after the old one ran out, these things do not always pan out as they should, for warned is for armed, Rick

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08-03-2011, 14:03	#16
larson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: moomin vally Posts: 1,138	ive been offered full tickets for £100 at a m.o.t station. he passes then as long as it looks ok ant breaks and tyres are good theny ou get a list of what needs doing.. and before you ask i declined as tempting as it was maybe hes running one like this.

08-03-2011, 14:30	#17
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	£75 in Merthyr

08-03-2011, 14:47	#18
jace Guest Posts: n/a	i had one the motors done as i only wanted it for couple months,£50 staurday morning nudge nudge wink wink ,so long as its not totaly lethal or dangerous hell let it slide!

08-03-2011, 15:48	#19
makeitfit Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the beach WEST WALES Vehicle: Maverick TDi BLACK mmm Posts: 15,136	My mate's brother in law new a guy who did his mot for £25 and a kiss

08-03-2011, 22:03	#23
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	meant to add to that , the acid test and burden of proof is that if youre stopped its unlikely the certificate will be physically checked. The computer records will be (which is where anpr data comes from) Im not sure but i understand that under the new regime of computerised testing at the mot station theyre all networked and as soon as "fail" is inputted at the station, the central ie one thats used as the definitive check, will show a fail and therefore not holding an MOT Im way out of date on the computer side of this but i do remember getting a statement from the DoT (pre vosa) for a case where a car had failed. After the intro blurb the statement quite simply said that the vehicle did not hold a current valid MOT because the last recorded transaction was a fail

08-03-2011, 22:06	#24
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	not my problem now anyway ...... or is it ?

09-03-2011, 00:33	#27
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	I would keep some carefully made notes on what has happened dates, times of MOT fail and sale of motor and checking with DVLA etc so that if this guy gets pulled (and surely he will) that if he tries to say he new nothing about the MOT failure and tries passing the buck to you that you have all the correct answers, maybe some time down the line, although in theory he will be responsible for getting it tested after the old one ran out, these things do not always pan out as they should, for warned is for armed, Rick