Racism in Britain today.

have to say site much more chilled now no pms from mods telling you to stop being naughty boy lol

[extreme-4x4]

Originally Posted by tezzer

seeing your a moderator colin, dont you know what went on,

no he didnt come to me with any complaints , but the rules are quite clear. as i have spent lots of posts and pm's to him explaining the rules of the site.


not seen any formal complaints or notes or intervention from the site owner either.


and on a personal note whilst some think this thread is or has been racist. i think its better to look at it as informative and educational .

from a moderating point of view , these threads do become very very hard work to moderate , and sometimes you do have to act quickly and fairly to make sure no one over steps the line , be that legally or with threats or name calling . so if you could all consider that next time you start these threads .....


and just a note . if anyone does feel unhappy with a thread or post . or anything on the site . feel free to contact one of the moderators we are here to help and make sure you are happy on the site and safe

[extreme-4x4]

Originally Posted by jace

have to say site much more chilled now no pms from mods telling you to stop being naughty boy lol

it does and will happen if the rules are broken ... trust me

[Peasgood]

I don't know if much or if anything has had to be deleted from this thread but fair does to the members, it has all been fairly rational and non offensive stuff.
I reckon there has been a great deal of crap that the mods have had to wade through, and fair does to them too.
I admin a different site and I think I might have been very tempted to delete the thread right from the beginning.

[clivvy]

Originally Posted by jace

ah well another scalp to the collection lol another catherine tate quote "bothered" lol but i am prepared to give guy an apology if it was down to me cant be fairer than that!

it wasnt.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

hell, what have missed off line couple of days backing up my data online
pre restore!

think names can be divisive?

part of many problems is the term paki, when used for anyone from asian
descent.

historically, i believe pakistan was part of india, then gained independence.

paskistaniis may be generally muslim though not 100%, just as indians might
be sikh or other.

guess bit like a brit being called a frog or a crout, even french or german
you'd likely take offence...

now combine with f'ing what ever, and its all going down hill faster than
gravity!


best approach do as you would be done to.

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by Thomas-the-Terrano2

hell, what have missed off line couple of days backing up my data online
pre restore!

think names can be divisive?

part of many problems is the term paki, when used for anyone from asian
descent.

historically, i believe pakistan was part of india, then gained independence.

paskistaniis may be generally muslim though not 100%, just as indians might
be sikh or other.

guess bit like a brit being called a frog or a crout, even french or german
you'd likely take offence...

now combine with f'ing what ever, and its all going down hill faster than
gravity!


best approach do as you would be done to.

Well its a good point and lets explore it shall we, because we might see why these people have such a chip on their shoulders eh?

Pakistan didn't exist as a state before 1947 and partition took place at the end of the British Empire rule (yes it was us chaps), when an essentially religious split was enforced, with secular India on the one hand, and islamic Pakistan on the other.

In the process some 12-13 million people were displaced and estimates of between several hundred thousand and a million dead.

So we invade the country, rape and pillage it for 200 years, decide we've had enough so then f*ck off and leave it with some artificially imposed segregation that causes serious suffering and death. I think I'd be a little bit ticked off in the circumstances.

Why do I take the trouble to learn this? Because my mother was born in Karachi and carried a lot of the culture with her throughout her life. And like A.N.Other member, I have sympathy with the genuine Romany community (and lets not start on that shall we, my underlining was specific and intentional) through old and close family connections to the fairs in years gone by.

And am I bothered by racist comments? Umm... water off a ducks back mate!

And lets remember its not that long since it was the asian and black communities that bore the brunt of things, not to mention republican irish, and before that the jews and so on ad nauseam.

Whatever anyone likes to think (and its why I take no offence on this stuff because people don't always express their true concerns properly) the core issue is about 'someone' taking our housing, benefits, women etc.. or engaging in terrorism. That 'someone' could be a little green man for all it matters.....we then go out and 'hate' little green men! But the fact is, we could have a very nice one living next door, working and paying taxes and we wouldn't make a fuss!

Thats why I am pretty secure in the knowledge that there isn't a genuine 'racist' on this site, just people who seen or received the sh1tty end of the stick while someone potentially less deserving gets to jump the queue ahead of them or their family - and being pi55ed about that is legitimate and understandable....

[kbekl]

i have a very odd position with racism

i have family from germany and family from turkey also family from the west Indies, my step daughter's dad is from Jamaica, my sisters children's dad is Asian, it is very difficult for me to be a racist,

but i have to admit i do not like some of the youth in this country be it black,pink,asian

i cant see that their is a true out and out racist on here just those that are annoyed of the system in place for the last few years

will this system actually change

[clivvy]

the problem is, its too easy in the heat of the moment, to break down your anger into a couple of simple, hateful words.

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by clivvy

the problem is, its too easy in the heat of the moment, to break down your anger into a couple of simple, hateful words.

too true.

A funny story.....my best mate is from Trinidad....he runs a successful recruitment agency in London and lives in a million pound house in Putney.

I took the kids up to visit him when they were really small and on the way some dingbat carved me up really badly so I wound the window down and shouted at him....

Got to my mates and the kids were excitedly telling him all about the carve-up. My mate was really into it, especially the bit where my daughter came out with "...and that that point Daddy wound the window down and shouted you dozy bl**k ba***rd!...." Talk about wanting the ground to open up and swallow you!

Luckily he knew me better than that but he ripped the pi55 out of me for ages afterwards! LOL

[clivvy]

this is it, sometimes the outburst is just a very basic exclamation of anger, with no meaning. I got out of that a LONG time ago (grew up in a council estate seperated from another council estate by a graveyard, one side white, the other, well, you get the idea)

my argument with the race laws is they have now got so powerfull if someone ethnic shall we say makes an allegation they will pursue it,but if you happen to be white there not interested,recently saw a welsh fella laughing with two soma;i guys all good humoured on both sides an irish fella complained about jonseys pirate joke all hell broke loose everybody called up people supended best of all the two somali guys thought the pirate bit hilarious and jonsey is now known as capt pugwash lol,but the time,money,efort investigating a non incident unbelievable!

[lacroupade]

Originally Posted by jace

my argument with the race laws is they have now got so powerfull if someone ethnic shall we say makes an allegation they will pursue it,but if you happen to be white there not interested,recently saw a welsh fella laughing with two soma;i guys all good humoured on both sides an irish fella complained about jonseys pirate joke all hell broke loose everybody called up people supended best of all the two somali guys thought the pirate bit hilarious and jonsey is now known as capt pugwash lol,but the time,money,efort investigating a non incident unbelievable!

what was the pirate joke then? repeatable?

it werent really a joke it was just the calling the somali guys pirates more of a jokey comment they were fine with it yet the stoopid irish fella reported a racist comment and the sky fell in lol! the end result after about 3 weeks of investigating .......bugger all a susgestion that pirate wasnt realy and apropiate comment!

[kbekl]

racism between black people is quite funny i think lol

they call each other nigger etc but then when your kids say it to them they get funny about it, my daughters dad was saying it over the phone and she picked up on it then my son picked up on it and asked him what it was shold have seen his face