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solarman216 · 13-09-2010, 22:49

All sounds good but at the end of the day a bit like intruder alarms, next to useless, we have cattle wire near us and the farmer was not sure if it was working, so I grabbed it for a while and when the pulse I felt did not die, I told him it was OK , he thought I was joking and that it was dead as I had not moved, so he touched the wire gingerly, and jumped three feet into the air, horses for courses, Rick

(RIP) PLANK · 13-09-2010, 22:52

rick i deal with electric fences every day and trust me you wouldn't hold onto this one

harlowmaverick · 13-09-2010, 22:52

have you got a link to where you purchased this wonderful product and signage?

i feel a plan forming!!!!

(RIP) PLANK · 13-09-2010, 22:55

I will send you a link in a PM, I didnt buy it all specialy as i use thisstuff for other purposes all the time, mainly the jobs it was intended for.

solarman216 · 13-09-2010, 23:04

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Originally Posted by PLANK

rick i deal with electric fences every day and trust me you wouldn't hold onto this one

But if I jumped onto it, climbed over and jumped off????? 10k is only able to jump an inch or so if that, Rick

(RIP) PLANK · 13-09-2010, 23:16

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Originally Posted by solarman216

But if I jumped onto it, climbed over and jumped off????? 10k is only able to jump an inch or so if that, Rick

so your plannig to rob me then?

no the idea is most of the folks from urban areas have never even seen an electric fence so they touch it, get a belt and then leave it alone.

A friend of mine had 'issues' with a garden centre that backed onto a canal, so much troble he could no longer get insured. Same fence system installed and 3 robery free years.

alarm - waste of time, i'll turn it off then. fence - waste of time i'll turn it off then

what about the door locks? crap thought so, i'll leave the doors open then

but if each thing is only 10% effective, then having ten different things might do the trick! what do you think?

such cynicism in one so young

solarman216 · 13-09-2010, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLANK

so your plannig to rob me then?

no the idea is most of the folks from urban areas have never even seen an electric fence so they touch it, get a belt and then leave it alone.

A friend of mine had 'issues' with a garden centre that backed onto a canal, so much troble he could no longer get insured. Same fence system installed and 3 robery free years.

alarm - waste of time, i'll turn it off then. fence - waste of time i'll turn it off then

what about the door locks? crap thought so, i'll leave the doors open then

but if each thing is only 10% effective, then having ten different things might do the trick! what do you think?

such cynicism in one so young

Agreed, an alarm box is as good a as the complete thing, it stops the opportunist, the best alarm , will not stop the professional, electric fence the same, so easy to overcome, but to the general yobos stops them easy, we are fortunate enough to live in a place that we do not need to lock our doors, we do out of habit, but no need, we have cctv, but it has only been any good for watching the badgers and foxes, Rick

briggie · 13-09-2010, 23:36

what you need for most bugglers is a visual deterent , and a alarm / notice warning of electric shocks / noises going off etc normally suffices to the brain dead morons that steal

Deleted account DD · 14-09-2010, 10:21

Less determined burglars hate light and noise. More resourceful ones will check out the extent of your light and noise then decide if they can deal with it. A pro will have recce'd your place and will not be deterred.

All depends what level of atttack youre expecting and no measure should be discounted.

Alarms are very good because they put the level worry into many a burgling head and will create noise if activated (see above). Dummy boxes though are easily sussed

Theres always a way around any electronic or mechanical device but it all depends as I said what level of attack youre expecting.

I'm sure theres people on here who have sadly been screwed after an alarm was disabled. But I can personally recall literally dozens, perhaps hundreds where people have been seen fleeing when a secreted security light came on or a patio door under attack set off the alarm.

Not one point above is made up. Its fact and literally straight from the horses mouth

On a personal note I designed out home alarm. I looked at it from the "how would I want to by pass this" view. The trick with alarms is to think outside of the box and know how the burglar looks at your house. eg anti foam sensors are fine in the bell box but thats old hat now, do something like placing the SABI sperate say in a corner of the loft with a 200 decibel whooping siren attached.

Speak to your crime prevention bloke. Our local ones are spot on (have to say that really cos theyre good mates )

Deleted account DD · 14-09-2010, 10:22

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Originally Posted by solarman216

But if I jumped onto it, climbed over and jumped off????? 10k is only able to jump an inch or so if that, Rick

Perhaps, but proof of the pudding is where my caravan is stored

briggie · 14-09-2010, 10:27

my mate trev has a great guard dog called major , its as soft as putty and lets you into the house , lets you stroke him ..... but if you try to leave he will pin you up against the wall

Deleted account DD · 14-09-2010, 10:57

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Originally Posted by solarman216

we are fortunate enough to live in a place that we do not need to lock our doors,

A very dangerous presumption with level 2 travelling crims being the norm these days, presumption of course being the mother of all **** ups

rustic · 14-09-2010, 11:25

Locks only keep honest people out.

(RIP) PLANK · 14-09-2010, 14:54

well i have two 'homes' on eis in a remote rural area and the closest neighboiur is half a miel away, very off the beaten track, and everything you put down gets bloody stolen including the electric fence!

You can only do your best, and another big feature of security is 'peace of mind' even if it is a little deluded, you can at least enjoy it while it lasts!

Deleted account DD · 14-09-2010, 17:07

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Originally Posted by rustic

Locks only keep honest people out.

On many occasions yes , on otherd no. I recall one scrote getting his lock pick screwdriver stuck in agarage door and legging it. I also remember finding a broken hacksaw blade..............and blood, in another aborted motorcycle theft. The I'm confident they rate their locks.

On a slight aside, have you ever tried kicking in or shouldering a door like they do on the tele ? More often than not it doesn't work but it furkin hurts lol

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13-09-2010, 22:49	#16
solarman216 Off road maniac Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bexhill on Sea Vehicle: Y60 Patrol Me, 3 ltr Mrs Posts: 17,431	All sounds good but at the end of the day a bit like intruder alarms, next to useless, we have cattle wire near us and the farmer was not sure if it was working, so I grabbed it for a while and when the pulse I felt did not die, I told him it was OK , he thought I was joking and that it was dead as I had not moved, so he touched the wire gingerly, and jumped three feet into the air, horses for courses, Rick

13-09-2010, 22:52	#17
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	rick i deal with electric fences every day and trust me you wouldn't hold onto this one

13-09-2010, 22:52	#18
harlowmaverick Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Harlow, Essex Vehicle: Nissan Terrano 3.0 tdi 03 Posts: 962	have you got a link to where you purchased this wonderful product and signage? i feel a plan forming!!!!

13-09-2010, 22:55	#19
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	I will send you a link in a PM, I didnt buy it all specialy as i use thisstuff for other purposes all the time, mainly the jobs it was intended for.

13-09-2010, 23:36	#23
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	what you need for most bugglers is a visual deterent , and a alarm / notice warning of electric shocks / noises going off etc normally suffices to the brain dead morons that steal

14-09-2010, 10:21	#24
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	Less determined burglars hate light and noise. More resourceful ones will check out the extent of your light and noise then decide if they can deal with it. A pro will have recce'd your place and will not be deterred. All depends what level of atttack youre expecting and no measure should be discounted. Alarms are very good because they put the level worry into many a burgling head and will create noise if activated (see above). Dummy boxes though are easily sussed Theres always a way around any electronic or mechanical device but it all depends as I said what level of attack youre expecting. I'm sure theres people on here who have sadly been screwed after an alarm was disabled. But I can personally recall literally dozens, perhaps hundreds where people have been seen fleeing when a secreted security light came on or a patio door under attack set off the alarm. Not one point above is made up. Its fact and literally straight from the horses mouth On a personal note I designed out home alarm. I looked at it from the "how would I want to by pass this" view. The trick with alarms is to think outside of the box and know how the burglar looks at your house. eg anti foam sensors are fine in the bell box but thats old hat now, do something like placing the SABI sperate say in a corner of the loft with a 200 decibel whooping siren attached. Speak to your crime prevention bloke. Our local ones are spot on (have to say that really cos theyre good mates )

14-09-2010, 10:27	#26
briggie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: peoples democratic republic of west yorkshire Vehicle: " alice " Posts: 10,473	my mate trev has a great guard dog called major , its as soft as putty and lets you into the house , lets you stroke him ..... but if you try to leave he will pin you up against the wall

14-09-2010, 14:54	#29
(RIP) PLANK Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central England, in the Heart of the Black Country Vehicle: T2 2004 TDI SE LWB Posts: 7,740	well i have two 'homes' on eis in a remote rural area and the closest neighboiur is half a miel away, very off the beaten track, and everything you put down gets bloody stolen including the electric fence! You can only do your best, and another big feature of security is 'peace of mind' even if it is a little deluded, you can at least enjoy it while it lasts!