towing longer,wider and heavier, maybe?

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 18-10-2010, 21:34

you may be aware that the law changed this spring to allow wider (full width) caravans and trailers to be towed by vehicles <3500kg , though length remains at 23 feet or 7 meters body length (so excludes A frame).

useful to some in that some of the previously illegal Hobby and similiar 'vans along with classic UK showmen's trailers are now legit behind our trucks.

BUT I was thinking, how much longer than the current length trailers would you be happy to tow given a chance, I'm thinking that there are Hobbys around 8 meters body I'm sure the troll would be happy with, though the shunt I have to do with it to get in my yard could be iffy!

ALSO wondering any truck and bus drivers, given your usual work routes and loading bays/yards/bus stations how much more wagon / bus could you handle, aware that current max train length is 18.75m of which trailer can be 13.6m? for now, I believe, and buses, though mainly coaches have recently gone up to 15m/50 feet. Feel free to factor in extra axles to keep weights sensible....

zippy656 · 18-10-2010, 21:37

um, what about gliders they are longer surly...

Thomas-the-Terrano2 · 18-10-2010, 21:48

good point zip, seen some of those reckon could be a good 30 foot,
though narrow, and pretty light to lol.

seen rowing boats, racing variety, again at about 30 foot on cars/suvs
so wonder what law is on them, could be down to indivisable load, ie
boat on trailer, trailer is typically less. guess doesnt apply to tin tents
unless you made out was using truck as a wrecker/equiv.

so are you up for a bit of glider tugging?

zippy656 · 18-10-2010, 21:52

nope, but brother in law did a few years back

Deleted account DD · 18-10-2010, 22:33

We have a pageant limousin twin axle. Its a air old size and certainly one site we visited and liked with the old smaller van we cant get onto due to a turn in the track to it

Some site owners , particularly cls tell us about limited access then draw a sharp intake of breath or carefully say "you should be ok" when we say what we've got

Other sites need very very careful maneuvering.

I dont think we'd go bigger on a conventional van those extra inches could be a pain in the arse but i'd be reluctant to give up the space we have

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But then just to kick all of those logical thoughts into touch we have considered a fifth wheeler

Deleted account DD · 18-10-2010, 22:35

oh and I think Pauls where we were going to take up squatters rights has limited access so I wouldnt want to got bigger when we make our tactical move

18-10-2010, 21:34	#1
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	towing longer,wider and heavier, maybe? you may be aware that the law changed this spring to allow wider (full width) caravans and trailers to be towed by vehicles <3500kg , though length remains at 23 feet or 7 meters body length (so excludes A frame). useful to some in that some of the previously illegal Hobby and similiar 'vans along with classic UK showmen's trailers are now legit behind our trucks. BUT I was thinking, how much longer than the current length trailers would you be happy to tow given a chance, I'm thinking that there are Hobbys around 8 meters body I'm sure the troll would be happy with, though the shunt I have to do with it to get in my yard could be iffy! ALSO wondering any truck and bus drivers, given your usual work routes and loading bays/yards/bus stations how much more wagon / bus could you handle, aware that current max train length is 18.75m of which trailer can be 13.6m? for now, I believe, and buses, though mainly coaches have recently gone up to 15m/50 feet. Feel free to factor in extra axles to keep weights sensible.... __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

18-10-2010, 21:48	#3
Thomas-the-Terrano2 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hackenthorpe Sheffield Vehicle: Terrano2 R20 lwb 2.7TDi Posts: 5,234	good point zip, seen some of those reckon could be a good 30 foot, though narrow, and pretty light to lol. seen rowing boats, racing variety, again at about 30 foot on cars/suvs so wonder what law is on them, could be down to indivisable load, ie boat on trailer, trailer is typically less. guess doesnt apply to tin tents unless you made out was using truck as a wrecker/equiv. so are you up for a bit of glider tugging? __________________ M6YTB / 20YTB '60' 2010 Ford C Max Zetec 1.6i, black '56' 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0TD, silver 2021 Bailey Pegasus Grade SE Turin caravan Smile, its more likely to confuse. One Life, Don't Just Live It, Drive a Nissan, or ...... a Jeep. Owner of Nissan 4x4s 2005 to 2019, and maybe in the future too!

18-10-2010, 21:37	#2
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	um, what about gliders they are longer surly...

18-10-2010, 21:52	#4
zippy656 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Devizes Wiltshire Vehicle: Nissan Note Ntec 1.5 Posts: 14,138	nope, but brother in law did a few years back

18-10-2010, 22:33	#5
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	We have a pageant limousin twin axle. Its a air old size and certainly one site we visited and liked with the old smaller van we cant get onto due to a turn in the track to it Some site owners , particularly cls tell us about limited access then draw a sharp intake of breath or carefully say "you should be ok" when we say what we've got Other sites need very very careful maneuvering. I dont think we'd go bigger on a conventional van those extra inches could be a pain in the arse but i'd be reluctant to give up the space we have . But then just to kick all of those logical thoughts into touch we have considered a fifth wheeler

18-10-2010, 22:35	#6
Deleted account DD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4,705	oh and I think Pauls where we were going to take up squatters rights has limited access so I wouldnt want to got bigger when we make our tactical move