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Old 16-06-2021, 00:48   #1
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My Maverick is on its way out
MOT station say not worth the cost of fixing the gearbox
It has a current MOT, got it 15/06/2021 look it up M986 YNH
Gearbox jumps out of gear, whines in 3rd
all in, a replacement with clutch and labour in the region of a grand, more than I paid for it
But it has been good to me, not cost much in the 10 years or so I have had it
Hopefully one of you guys will be able to make use of it
Location near Southend Essex
I will continue to use it until I find a replacement
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Old 16-06-2021, 00:59   #2
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When you say jumps out of gear, can you hold it in with ease or is it difficult, does the clutch slip? put it in 4th hand brake on rev it to limit, drop clutch, does it stall or run on? Rick
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Old 16-06-2021, 09:41   #3
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Whilst I can’t comment on the gearbox issue, if she has been good to you then what is a £1000? To buy a replacement for her will cost you more.

Looking at your MOT history you have a few bits of welding to do and some brake pipe to replace. Is it lots of welding that is needed?

It is easy for a garage to say if it is worth fixing or not but only you can determine the value of the car to you. I am spending just shy of £3000 on my 1998 Patrol. Is it worth it in the economic sense? No not at all but she is worth it to me. I love my SWB Patrol and hope to run her for another 10 years.
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Old 16-06-2021, 12:12   #4
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Easy to hold stick to stop it jumping out
Not tried the stall thing yet, will try later, but do not think the hand brake will hold it
I have had it tested at the same MOT shop since I bought it
Body not showing normal moth holes MOT shop says lots of rust underneath but chassis OK

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Old 16-06-2021, 15:39   #5
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4th gear, hand brake on, 3K revs, drop clutch, lurches forward a bit, crunch, engine stops.
Won't do much more than 3K revs, mini filter needs a clean, ever since I tried veg oil it has needed doing every few K miles, filter blocked with what looks like Vaseline
I added clutch to estimate in case I needed one
I have tried to get quotes for a courier to get a replacement box to me, so far no luck
I would like to keep the mav but even if I get a second hand box fitted the gearbox specialist say it may be no better than the one I have, so 1K down the swannie for nothing, I am a devotee of Murphy
Best prices so far, wrecker recommended by group around £300 for box, £450 for labour [in/out, price was 2 years ago] new clutch £150 [if I need one], so not far short of a grand, plus getting box to the gearbox specialist in Canvey Island
MOT garage says a mondeo estate would set me back around £1,500, I do not need 7 seats nor a 4x4, [just a car big enough to hold my worktop fitting tools] he thinks one of them would see me out, I am 82 and counting
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Easy to hold stick to stop it jumping out
Not tried the stall thing yet, will try later, but do not think the hand brake will hold it
I have had it tested at the same MOT shop since I bought it
Body not showing normal moth holes MOT shop says lots of rust underneath but chassis OK
Not being able to "feel" it myself I am guessing but it could just be the indent ball and springs not doing their job, easy fix.

Re your clutch it is fine, Rick
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Old 16-06-2021, 21:21   #7
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Not being able to "feel" it myself I am guessing but it could just be the indent ball and springs not doing their job, easy fix.

Re your clutch it is fine, Rick
Thanks Rick it is the whine in 3rd that worries me

tell me more about the easy fix

Jumping out of 1st is new, about a month or two, jumps out on take off, second try stays in

Jumping out of second on overrun has been there for years

getting down into 2nd on the move almost impossible, been like that a year or two, either grateing or feels like stick is up against a stop. pumping clutch while fulling back on stick sometime gets 2nd, but by then it is crawling

I would like to keep it but the transmission shop said it is on its last legs that was early 2020 I think, may have been 2019, I do not do much mileage about 1,000 a year according to the MOT cert 2020, 137,151
2019, 136,356,
2018 135,326.
When we spoke on phone about it was soon after seeing the transmission guy, I think I messaged you about it the same time

I have worked on cars most of my life so should be able to handle the indent problem

I have a copy of the PDF manual somewhere, I think the link to the download fell over a year or two ago, I have not looked to see if it is fixed

Hopefully you have the answer for me and Mav and me can spend some more years together

Rick I just looked up messages, we were messaging Decender 2019

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Old 16-06-2021, 15:50   #8
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Whilst I can’t comment on the gearbox issue, if she has been good to you then what is a £1000? To buy a replacement for her will cost you more.

Looking at your MOT history you have a few bits of welding to do and some brake pipe to replace. Is it lots of welding that is needed?

It is easy for a garage to say if it is worth fixing or not but only you can determine the value of the car to you. I am spending just shy of £3000 on my 1998 Patrol. Is it worth it in the economic sense? No not at all but she is worth it to me. I love my SWB Patrol and hope to run her for another 10 years.
I will take Mav to local garage who did my last welding to get a quote for welding current faults and possible future faults, based on me expiring in around a decade or so, I ride a 600 cc Honda scooter so cant be that long

I have it booked in for a quote Thursday late PM, he will look at it Friday and update me with a quote, I have used the garage for a couple of decades at least

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