Terrano fault

[Frank]

Hi everyone Hope your all well I'm new to the forum I've had my nissan terrano 2 2.7 tdi 1997 about 12 months but only just put it on the road .Got a problem when you set of from a junction or traffic lights it stalls unless you increase the revs also if you leave it ticking over for a short time it just shudders and stops engine management light is on been on since I bought the car I have changed the fuel filter and cleaned the maf.sensor but still has this problem any help would be appreciated Regards Frank

[solarman216]

Hi Frank and welcome, can you tell me what pump have you got, easy way to
tell is by the MAF is it Bosch or Hitachi, also have you read the fault codes ? Rick

[lfteixeira]

Welcome.

You have the Terrano for 12 months with the EML on? Hummm....

Like solaman216 say'd, first thing it to read the codes to see what's the ECU complaining about.

[Banshee]

Welcome Frank

I'm going to go straight in with a fuel starvation issue there. If it's a 1997 it's highly likely you will be on a Zexel Injector Pump setup with a Hitachi MAF.

Pop your bonnet and check the behaviour of your plunger on top of your fuel filter housing with the engine running it should be "rock solid" and you shouldn't be able to depress it much, if you can, then you've got air in your fuel system which would ring true with my suspicions.

Another easy way to prove this would be to replace the rubber pipe from the fuel filter housing to the hard line across the bulkhead which is the feed to the IP. Once you've done this, remove your intercooler and then with a 17mm spanner (I think) undo each injector and turn the truck over a few revolutions and then nip them all back up again. Start the truck and again, check for any air bubbles in the clear pipe while running and check the fuel filter primer plunger again.

Did your fuel filter look quite new when you brought the truck? Swapping the filter and not priming the system back up correctly can cause the exact issues you are getting from experience.

If you're still having problems after that, I'd take a quick look at the Hitachi MAF as it's easy accessed from the top and cleanable with electrical contact cleaner.

I'm still saying fuel though, so I'd be leaving the MAF until last and checking the fuel lines back to the fuel tank and then the sender unit inside the tank for debris.

Good Luck

[Frank]

Hi mate thanks for the advice put new rubber pipes on the filter housing cleaned mad sensor still has fault when you leave it ticking over for about 5 minutes just judders and cuts out but starts up straight away and if you put it in say 3rd gear at about 35 mph it judders cuts put at traffic lights or junctions unless you rev up a bit does seem like fuel problem rev counter has never worked for some reason got the car of a old guy so it's not been hammered can't get a code reader to plug in its a old connecter type 14 pins I think.

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Banshee

Welcome Frank

I'm going to go straight in with a fuel starvation issue there. If it's a 1997 it's highly likely you will be on a Zexel Injector Pump setup with a Hitachi MAF.

Pop your bonnet and check the behaviour of your plunger on top of your fuel filter housing with the engine running it should be "rock solid" and you shouldn't be able to depress it much, if you can, then you've got air in your fuel system which would ring true with my suspicions.

Another easy way to prove this would be to replace the rubber pipe from the fuel filter housing to the hard line across the bulkhead which is the feed to the IP. Once you've done this, remove your intercooler and then with a 17mm spanner (I think) undo each injector and turn the truck over a few revolutions and then nip them all back up again. Start the truck and again, check for any air bubbles in the clear pipe while running and check the fuel filter primer plunger again.

Did your fuel filter look quite new when you brought the truck? Swapping the filter and not priming the system back up correctly can cause the exact issues you are getting from experience.

If you're still having problems after that, I'd take a quick look at the Hitachi MAF as it's easy accessed from the top and cleanable with electrical contact cleaner.

I'm still saying fuel though, so I'd be leaving the MAF until last and checking the fuel lines back to the fuel tank and then the sender unit inside the tank for debris.

Good Luck

Thanks for the information I will put some clear pipe in line and check for air bubbles thanks again

[Frank]

Thanks for your help going to put clear pipe in line to see of there ate any air bubbles

[lfteixeira]

Originally Posted by Frank

Thanks for your help going to put clear pipe in line to see of there ate any air bubbles

Check the codes, you don't need a code reader.
Only a paper clip and register the number o blinks...

See here in mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTjw5mgzZHg

[Frank]

Can't get a code reader to plug in old type connector on the car

[solarman216]

Originally Posted by Frank

Can't get a code reader to plug in old type connector on the car

Look in Club promo/workshop downloads and read the fault codes, no need for a reader, Rick

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Banshee

Welcome Frank

I'm going to go straight in with a fuel starvation issue there. If it's a 1997 it's highly likely you will be on a Zexel Injector Pump setup with a Hitachi MAF.

Pop your bonnet and check the behaviour of your plunger on top of your fuel filter housing with the engine running it should be "rock solid" and you shouldn't be able to depress it much, if you can, then you've got air in your fuel system which would ring true with my suspicions.

Another easy way to prove this would be to replace the rubber pipe from the fuel filter housing to the hard line across the bulkhead which is the feed to the IP. Once you've done this, remove your intercooler and then with a 17mm spanner (I think) undo each injector and turn the truck over a few revolutions and then nip them all back up again. Start the truck and again, check for any air bubbles in the clear pipe while running and check the fuel filter primer plunger again.

Did your fuel filter look quite new when you brought the truck? Swapping the filter and not priming the system back up correctly can cause the exact issues you are getting from experience.

If you're still having problems after that, I'd take a quick look at the Hitachi MAF as it's easy accessed from the top and cleanable with electrical contact cleaner.

I'm still saying fuel though, so I'd be leaving the MAF until last and checking the fuel lines back to the fuel tank and then the sender unit inside the tank for debris.

Good Luck

Originally Posted by lfteixeira

Welcome.

You have the Terrano for 12 months with the EML on? Hummm....

Like solaman216 say'd, first thing it to read the codes to see what's the ECU complaining about.

Hi engine management light as been for years looked on the mot history so I doubt if this as had this problem that long but t am trying to get a code reader that has the 14 pin connector they all have the modern one thanks

[elty001]

You don't need a code reader to access and read the fault codes on these motors.
Unless you are using Nissan consult software you are most likely to get a false code.
In the quick links at the top right of the screen there is a link to the workshop downloads section.
Scroll down until you find the how to access and read fault codes and follow the instructions to get an accurate fault code

[Frank]

Originally Posted by solarman216

Hi Frank and welcome, can you tell me what pump have you got, easy way to
tell is by the MAF is it Bosch or Hitachi, also have you read the fault codes ? Rick

Hi it's a Hitachi maf sensor